Crowdfunding

For instance, right now I have some GROSS amount of capital of around $60,000 to invest over the course of next 3 years. It necessarily involves a business in Romania since half of those money are government grants. And I can't employ myself both due to legal constraints on that grant and the need for the other half, we've a word here "you can't steal your own hat" :p

I'd say that's a non-trivial amount of capital even in the "first world", if concentrated on a short enough period of time on the right choice of business. Diluted over 3 years it's not so great even here although ultimately if I really decide to go for it, it's still within achievable territory but would need a greater element of luck in finding a competent guy to work on my projected business than fishing in the pool I could fish should I have additional capital available.

It's a traders forum and I'm talking a capital markets business but the investment DOES NOT INCLUDE TRADING CAPITAL, just R&D and setting up the business. If the business is successful in it's non-trading-capital requirements, having reserve capital for trading wouldn't hurt of course, but it would be completely superfluous.

So who's in? :D
 
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Aquarians said:
Let's resurrect this thread since it shows some promise of interesting discussions.

I thought about it from both the investor and the funded perspective.

While getting funded does superficially seem the better option (play roulette on somebody else's money - as long as it's not the Russian one!! ;) ), in the light of my 80% rule I would much rather lean towards investor. Seems like you too but there's another problem here: while I've in the 99.99% chances of success asking some "startup" to take my money, the chances of getting them back with interest are severely violating my 80% rule.

My 80% rule is not to invest in something which has less than 0.8 return of capital for me (not 1.8, zero point eight) while ensuring a higher than 80% probability of me getting the deal.
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A Ponzi scheem at the very begining, may not violate your 80% rule.
 
That's not what I have in mind but as long as first requirement, they're legal (don't wanna end up in the documentary posted by you on the politics forum ;) and second of course, pass my 80% constraint... anything goes :cool:

Which leads us to my next concept, I'm not interested in crowdfunding since it obviously dilutes my equity way below my constraint threshold. I am interested in co-founding though and, magic of maths, it's possible that in a single business both founders get 80% In math terms, 2 x 80% = 100%. In profitability terms they're necessarily >= 160%, of course.

Interested or at least curious about such next generation Fordewind & Aquarians totally not schemes but legitimate businesses? ;)
Did I tell that apart from an engineering (sort of rocket science) degree, I also have a humble accountant's one?
 
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Yeah, me too, as much as I like to keep the spirits up by joking about it (like calling it a Ponzi scheme) :P

I'm actually serious about it (don't do jokes on $60k) but it's 23 PM here and I'm awake since 6 AM, plus tomorrow's announcing to be a horrendously stressful day. So I'm calling it quits for tonight, will continue this talk later, probably the day after tomorrow when I'll have recuperated enough energy.
 
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