Critical Race Theory - Parents fight back

[gwb-trading]

Why does CRT class in college make you feel uncomfortable on the basis of race...

If you feel uncomfortable when an issue of race is taught in history then you are just a pussy snowflake

So telling all the white students in the class they are the oppressors and all the black students they are the oppressed in a K-12 classroom is somehow appropriate? Seeing this lesson plan has been used on elementary school students -- do you believe this is not demeaning to the children? These children are nothing more than "pussy snowflakes"?

You need to keep in mind that educational practices need to be age appropriate for the audience. No child in K-12 schools has the emotional maturity to deal with CRT-based lesson plans being applied in the school. Note that CRT-lesson plans are very different than actually teaching our complete history -- including racism, slavery, etc.

 

[Cuddles]

Let me say that Critical Race Theory classes are appropriate at the university level -- as long as people are taking them voluntarily. When you are at the age of a university student you should be emotionally mature enough to take a class where you are made to feel uncomfortable on the basis of race.

This is very different then forcing CRT-based lesson plans on K-12 children involuntarily who simply endure these "equity" educational initiatives as a form of bullying and belittling on the basis of race .

Face it, all this anti-CRT talk targets anything that makes anyone reflect on the advantages of their white given privilege and the horrors of racism. So yes, a few kids with a conscience may even feel indirect guilt for the actions of their ancestors.

 

[UsualName]

Let me say that Critical Race Theory classes are appropriate at the university level -- as long as people are taking them voluntarily. When you are at the age of a university student you should be emotionally mature enough to take a class where you are made to feel uncomfortable on the basis of race.

This is very different then forcing CRT-based lesson plans on K-12 children involuntarily who simply endure these "equity" educational initiatives as a form of bullying and belittling on the basis of race .

I really think you’re totally confused. I don’t know if critical race theory being taught in public schools. I think you are mistaken history for critical race theory.
Let me ask you a few questions…

Should we teach children the constitution as originally written was racist, sexist and classist or should we avoid those facts because you’re uncomfortable?

Should we teach the horrors of slavery such as people having their children stolen from them and sold at a market or does that fact make you uncomfortable?

Should we teach about the freedom riders that went to Mississippi and were tortured and murdered by local law enforcement and thrown in a shallow grave to rot or does that make you uncomfortable?

Should we teach segregation was legal under the law?

Should we teach about the numerous treaties broken with the native Americans and the theft of their land?

What is the truth of it is not the whole truth?

The truth is this country is and was brutal to non whites, immigrants and women. We made laws and allowed laws that oppressed people and worse. Are these things we should not teach because of your discomfort?

What’s the point in having schools if the information isn’t true? We will just end up with a bunch of brain washed kids.

Taking this material out of schools is the equivalent of giving out participation trophies because we don’t want people’s feelings to get hurt.

 

[gwb-trading]

I really think you’re totally confused. I don’t know if critical race theory being taught in public schools. I think you are mistaken history for critical race theory.
Let me ask you a few questions…

Should we teach children the constitution as originally written was racist, sexist and classist or should we avoid those facts because you’re uncomfortable?

Should we teach the horrors of slavery such as people having their children stolen from them and sold at a market or does that fact make you uncomfortable?

Should we teach about the freedom riders that went to Mississippi and were tortured and murdered by local law enforcement and thrown in a shallow grave to rot or does that make you uncomfortable?

Should we teach segregation was legal under the law?

Should we teach about the numerous treaties broken with the native Americans and the theft of their land?

What is the truth of it is not the whole truth?

The truth is this country is and was brutal to non whites, immigrants and women. We made laws and allowed laws that oppressed people and worse. Are these things we should not teach because of your discomfort?

What’s the point in having schools if the information isn’t true? We will just end up with a bunch of brain washed kids.

Taking this material out of schools is the equivalent of giving out participation trophies because we don’t want people’s feelings to get hurt.

All of the above is being taught in K-12 schools today... and has been taught for decades. Take a look at the AP History class curriculum. Take a look at the school field trips in North Carolina for middle school students to the International Civil Rights Center and Museum in Greensboro where the civil rights sit-in occurred. Take a look at the required reading lists in many schools for their history & social study classes. Teaching the actual U.S. history in its full context is not the issue (to me) -- sadly it seems to be the problem to some right-wing Republican politicians who conflate it with CRT-based education.

History is not the same thing as Critical Race Theory. Critical Race Theory is a method of teaching lesson plans which deliberately are designed to make students feel uncomfortable on the basis of their race. CRT-based lesson plans are not appropriate for K-12 students.

 

[UsualName]

Critical Race Theory is a method of teaching lesson plans which deliberately are designed to make students feel uncomfortable on the basis of their race. CRT-based lesson plans are not appropriate for K-12 students.

What you are citing here, whether real or imagined, is not critical race theory. Now I can understand there may a rogue teacher somewhere here and there but I have an extremely hard time believing this is wide spread.

I just helped my freshman daughter prep for her honors history final and nothing like that is happening in her class.

 

[Ricter]

This debate over CRT, among so many others here, is really just arguing over what song the Wallace Hartley orchestra should play next.

 

[Cuddles]

All of the above is being taught in K-12 schools today... and has been taught for decades. Take a look at the AP History class curriculum. Take a look at the school field trips in North Carolina for middle school students to the International Civil Rights Center and Museum in Greensboro where the civil rights sit-in occurred. Take a look at the required reading lists in many schools for their history & social study classes. Teaching the actual U.S. history in its full context is not the issue (to me) -- sadly it seems to be the problem to some right-wing Republican politicians who conflate it with CRT-based education.

History is not the same thing as Critical Race Theory. Critical Race Theory is a method of teaching lesson plans which deliberately are designed to make students feel uncomfortable on the basis of their race. CRT-based lesson plans are not appropriate for K-12 students.

Critical race theory as preached by the GQP is the precise redefinition of that history. It's transparent sabotage of growing inclusivity (read Democrats) and a sabotage of public education to favor privatization. No con wants tax payers funding "propaganda" or their kids getting "brainwashed by Marxism", and no Democrat wants taxes being wasted or their kids going to a theocratic, anti-history, book burner wet dream.

 

[gwb-trading]

This debate over CRT, among so many others here, is really just arguing over what song the Wallace Hartley orchestra should play next.

I think they should have played a cover of Queen's "Another one bites the dust" on the Titanic.

There is a little problem with historical time periods for this however. But knowing the dates for things in history class doesn't really matter anymore.

 

[El OchoCinco]

So telling all the white students in the class they are the oppressors and all the black students they are the oppressed in a K-12 classroom is somehow appropriate? Seeing this lesson plan has been used on elementary school students -- do you believe this is not demeaning to the children? These children are nothing more than "pussy snowflakes"?

You need to keep in mind that educational practices need to be age appropriate for the audience. No child in K-12 schools has the emotional maturity to deal with CRT-based lesson plans being applied in the school. Note that CRT-lesson plans are very different than actually teaching our complete history -- including racism, slavery, etc.

Wait.... you have actual proof that in a college CRT class all white students are told directly they are oppressers abd belittled???

I dont want your opinion I want something to show that CRT across the board is taught this way....

You mentioned college kids first of all and no college is demaning white students in class....

GOP got you believing in some fantasy of white kids being demeaned regularly through state wide curriculum... I think the pussy snowflakes are the white GOP who are afraid of any race being taught.

My son did AP World History and AP U.S. History and no demeaning lessons or picking out white students (he goes to a public school in a district where a few parents cried about CRT and lo and behold... not taught)...... more fantasy

brain washing bullshit from the right

 

[gwb-trading]

Wait.... you have actual proof that in a college CRT class all white students are told directly they are oppressers abd belittled???

I dont want your opinion I want something to show that CRT across the board is taught this way....

You mentioned college kids first of all and no college is demaning white students in class....

GOP got you believing in some fantasy of white kids being demeaned regularly through state wide curriculum... I think the pussy snowflakes are the white GOP who are afraid of any race being taught.

I never stated that a college CRT class has divided students on the basis of race and called them oppressors and belittled them. CRT education at the college level is generally taught at an appropriate level but still includes the intent to make the students feel uncomfortable on the basis of race-based lessons but at this age students are expected to have the emotional maturity to talk things out and be educated from the experience.

Sadly, there are plenty of examples of this happening in K-12 schools with information from lawsuits and media articles -- including the exact lesson plans that were used to belittle children on the basis of race in CRT-based lesson plans. CRT-based lesson plans are not appropriate for K-12 aged children.