Critical Race Theory - Parents fight back

[Cuddles]

I think you need to have a direct conversation with a K-12 education professional who can set you straight on the difference between state standards (aka curriculum) and lesson plans. Once you clearly understand the difference then we can have a conversation regarding CRT in lesson plans being foisted on children in the classroom.

I have never supported GOP and their supporters extending the "definition of CRT" to include diversity and inclusion. And I have regularly outlined the difference between CRT/Equity and diversity/inclusion. Additionally I have mentioned many times the need to include diversity, social history, and inclusive perspectives in the K-12 classroom.

Nice crabwalk:

These "equity" programs are nothing more than Critical Race Theory in disguise. "Equity" programs which are designed to make students of particular races feel bad about themselves is nothing more than abuse.

Critical race theory in disguise? Equity plan has Loudoun County parents at odds
https://wjla.com/features/i-team/cr...quity-plan-has-loudoun-county-parents-at-odds

"Equity" is just another word for fostering Critical Race Theory in school -- as previously discussed.

And yet "equity programs" typically are just words for pushing "Critical Race Theory" as programs in the school that seek not to treat all students equally (which is the law) but to differentiate students based on race and treat students differently based on their race. This is just another variant of Critical Race Theory being applied to K-12 schools.

If the lesson plans are built around belittling children -- and may I point out the professors who "created" Critical Race Theory built their entire syllabus around lessons to make students uncomfortable -- then it is not appropriate in K-12 schools.

Parents have become very aware that "equity training" and other programs are merely a 'soft" renaming of CRT while pushing the same material. This can easily be found in lesson plans that school systems are now being forced to hand over.

Teaching diverse history is very different than CRT. However I agree these parent are idiots in rushing to ban these books.

Maybe you need to look up how "equity" education belittles and demeans children on the basis of race. In fact CRT curriculum is written around doing this to the students. It may be acceptable at the university level on a voluntary basis but has no place in K-12 education.

It's amusing that you are pushing this curriculum claim in the same month that a local high school student was suspended for mocking his teacher who was teaching the district-approved "equity" educational material where the student was being told he was an oppressor due to his race.

 

[gwb-trading]

Nice crabwalk:

Equity is just another word for CRT

All of this is different than inclusion and diversity.

It is a shame that you don't understand the difference.

Similarly it is sad that you support the belittling and demeaning of children in the classroom on the basis of race.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Equity is just another word for CRT

All of this is different than inclusion and diversity.

It is a shame that you don't understand the difference.

Similarly it is sad that you support the belittling and demeaning of children in the classroom on the basis of race.

When you run out of something to reply you come back with that demeaning of children and NO ONE HERE SAID THEY EVER SUPPORT DEMEANING OF CHILDREN nor have you proven that any equity or diversity means demeaning children. Still waiting for some state BOE or school board to come forth with a curriculum that pushes CRT or demeaning children. It does not exist.

Let;s just face it.... you like the phrase about children but ti comes from FOX or OAN or whitey because on a whole there is no movement to belittle children. If a white child and her racist parents are upset totally on their own when slavery is taught objectively and historically (no CRT) then they should leave the country.

But when say it is sad we support blah blah blah when none of us have ever said we support that shows you are just throwing ad hominem attacks. ALways a sign you have lost your position in the discussion and simply implying we hate children or support making children feel bad is 100% the sign of some bigger issue you have with all due respect.

 

[Cuddles]

When you run out of something to reply you come back with that demeaning of children and NO ONE HERE SAID THEY EVER SUPPORT DEMEANING OF CHILDREN nor have you proven that any equity or diversity means demeaning children. Still waiting for some state BOE or school board to come forth with a curriculum that pushes CRT or demeaning children. It does not exist.

Let;s just face it.... you like the phrase about children but ti comes from FOX or OAN or whitey because on a whole there is no movement to belittle children. If a white child and her racist parents are upset totally on their own when slavery is taught objectively and historically (no CRT) then they should leave the country.

But when say it is sad we support blah blah blah when none of us have ever said we support that shows you are just throwing ad hominem attacks. ALways a sign you have lost your position in the discussion and simply implying we hate children or support making children feel bad is 100% the sign of some bigger issue you have with all due respect.

It's his go-to when you hand him his ass. Oh "you support rapists because you don't want to dump a trillion dollars in building a facility for them"

 

[gwb-trading]

When you run out of something to reply you come back with that demeaning of children and NO ONE HERE SAID THEY EVER SUPPORT DEMEANING OF CHILDREN nor have you proven that any equity or diversity means demeaning children. Still waiting for some state BOE or school board to come forth with a curriculum that pushes CRT or demeaning children. It does not exist.

Let;s just face it.... you like the phrase about children but ti comes from FOX or OAN or whitey because on a whole there is no movement to belittle children. If a white child and her racist parents are upset totally on their own when slavery is taught objectively and historically (no CRT) then they should leave the country.

But when say it is sad we support blah blah blah when none of us have ever said we support that shows you are just throwing ad hominem attacks. ALways a sign you have lost your position in the discussion and simply implying we hate children or support making children feel bad is 100% the sign of some bigger issue you have with all due respect.

El Ocho -- once again let's see if you understand the basic educational points on standards and lesson plans --- and see if you can directly answer the two questions at the bottom.

Let me provide an example to give some clarity on the difference between state standards (curriculum) and lesson plans.

The state standard (curriculum) states that students must be proficient in multiplication and division in third grade by the end of the school year.

Two 3rd grade teachers download lesson plans to teach multiplication and division.

In classroom A -- the teacher uses a lesson plan where the class is randomly divided into two groups. Multiplication and division flash cards arbitrarily drawn from a deck are used in a competition between the two teams. Students on each team rotate answering a math questions. The student has thirty seconds to answer and a point is provided for each correct answer. The team with the most points at the end gets an award of candy.

In classroom B -- the teacher uses a lesson plan where the class is divided into two teams; one with all the white students labelled the "oppressors" and a second with all the black students labeled the "oppressed". The multiplication and division flash cards are divided into two sets; one with the easy questions and one with the hard questions. The students on the "oppressed" team are only given the easy math questions and given 2 minutes to answer (since this provides "equity") while the students on the "oppressor" team are only given the hard math questions and get 15 seconds to answer (since they have "historic advantages"). A point is provided for each correct answer. The team with the most points at the end gets an award of candy.

Now do you understand the difference between the state standard (curriculum), the non-CRT lesson plan, and the CRT-based lesson plan?

Do you understand what is fundamentally wrong with what is going on in classroom B?

 

[El OchoCinco]

El Ocho -- once again let's see if you understand the basic educational points on standards and lesson plans --- and see if you can directly answer the two questions at the bottom.

Let me provide an example to give some clarity on the difference between state standards (curriculum) and lesson plans.

The state standard (curriculum) states that students must be proficient in multiplication and division in third grade by the end of the school year.

Two 3rd grade teachers download lesson plans to teach multiplication and division.

In classroom A -- the teacher uses a lesson plan where the class is randomly divided into two groups. Multiplication and division flash cards arbitrarily drawn from a deck are used in a competition between the two teams. Students on each team rotate answering a math questions. The student has thirty seconds to answer and a point is provided for each correct answer. The team with the most points at the end gets an award of candy.

In classroom B -- the teacher uses a lesson plan where the class is divided into two teams; one with all the white students labelled the "oppressors" and a second with all the black students labeled the "oppressed". The multiplication and division flash cards are divided into two sets; one with the easy questions and one with the hard questions. The students on the "oppressed" team are only given the easy math questions and given 2 minutes to answer (since this provides "equity") while the students on the "oppressor" team are only given the hard math questions and get 15 seconds to answer (since they have "historic advantages"). A point is provided for each correct answer. The team with the most points at the end gets an award of candy.

Now do you understand the difference between the state standard (curriculum), the non-CRT lesson plan, and the CRT-based lesson plan?

Do you understand what is fundamentally wrong with what is going on in classroom B?

Hypothetically boys are raping girls in schools.....

what you pretend can happen is not a factual proof that CRT is being promoted or included in public school curriculum.


Hypothetically no CRT is being taught...there i proved my point.

 

[Bugenhagen]

I'm not saying this is a perfect metaphor for parts of GWB's mind...

But it's important information for vegetarians I'd warrant.

 

[gwb-trading]

Hypothetically boys are raping girls in schools.....

what you pretend can happen is not a factual proof that CRT is being promoted or included in public school curriculum.


Hypothetically no CRT is being taught...there i proved my point.

So -- by your lack of response -- you admit you don't know what the difference is between educational standards and lesson plans. Despite being given an obvious example.

This is not about the hypothetical --- across the nation there are numerous examples of inappropriate CRT based lesson plans being used in classrooms -- plus training (by consulting firms brought into the school systems) that fosters teachers to use CRT-based lesson plans in classrooms. And yes, these CRT- lesson plans which demean & belittle K-12 children on the basis of race are totally inappropriate. The entire concept of CRT education is that the educator should make the participants feel uncomfortable about their race & heritage to enforce the concepts of the lesson. However making children uncomfortable is the exact antithesis of what should be happening in classroom to allow children to learn. A school should be a "happy place" for children where they are nurtured and feel comfortable in learning.

At this point the CRT issue is dead for Democrats -- they have been taken out to the woodshed and badly spanked. Denying that CRT-based education is being used in K-12 classrooms has blown-up completely in their faces --- and now Democratic politicians (except for progressive extremists) will not even discuss the CRT issue. If "CRT is not a problem and a merely a GOP talking point" argument has any foundation in truth then Democratic politicians would be out arguing it all the time to score points-- instead we got complete silence from them.

The reality -- many parents see directly that CRT-based lesson plans are being used in their local school systems. Trying to tell the parents differently is like the Democrats trying to tell parents the sky is not blue. Parents will simply go outside in daytime and easily see the Democrats are full of the stuff that comes from a the rear end of a bull.

 

[El OchoCinco]

So -- by your lack of response -- you admit you don't know what the difference is between educational standards and lesson plans. Despite being given an obvious example.

This is not about the hypothetical --- across the nation there are numerous examples of inappropriate CRT based lesson plans being used in classrooms -- plus training (by consulting firms brought into the school systems) that fosters teachers to use CRT-based lesson plans in classrooms. And yes, these CRT- lesson plans which demean & belittle K-12 children on the basis of race are totally inappropriate. The entire concept of CRT education is that the educator should make the participants feel uncomfortable about their race & heritage to enforce the concepts of the lesson. However making children uncomfortable is the exact antithesis of what should be happening in classroom to allow children to learn. A school should be a "happy place" for children where they are nurtured and feel comfortable in learning.

At this point the CRT issue is dead for Democrats -- they have been taken out to the woodshed and badly spanked. Denying that CRT-based education is being used in K-12 classrooms has blown-up completely in their faces --- and now Democratic politicians (except for progressive extremists) will not even discuss the CRT issue. If "CRT is not a problem and a merely a GOP talking point" argument has any foundation in truth then Democratic politicians would be out arguing it all the time to score points-- instead we got complete silence from them.

The reality -- many parents see directly that CRT-based lesson plans are being used in their local school systems. Trying to tell the parents differently is like the Democrats trying to tell parents the sky is not blue. Parents will simply go outside in daytime and easily see the Democrats are full of the stuff that comes from a the rear end of a bull.

You can give my hypotheticals about lesson plans and what an individual teacher can do but what you cannot do is prove VIRGINIA has CRT as part of its curriculum and is teaching it in its public schools.

That is the whole point. leave out the hypothetical bullshit and definitions about what a fantasy teacher could do. Facts are about what is true not what might be or could be or may happen.

 

[gwb-trading]

You can give my hypotheticals about lesson plans and what an individual teacher can do but what you cannot do is prove VIRGINIA has CRT as part of its curriculum and is teaching it in its public schools.

That is the whole point. leave out the hypothetical bullshit and definitions about what a fantasy teacher could do. Facts are about what is true not what might be or could be or may happen.

So tell us what is the path forward for Democrats to fight the GOP "CRT" claims? What should they be doing? Because obviously what Democrats are doing right now is not working for them.

BTW -- As explained multiple times -- CRT is not a curriculum level item. A state standards item (aka curriculum) would be "Third graders must be proficient in multiplication and division using two digit numbers by the end of the school year" Lesson plans are how this is taught (aka methodology). CRT is a method of teaching lessons in school -- it is not a standard.