Creationism vs. evolution: Whose God is making America richer?

futurecurrents · Jan 13, 2015

Tsing Tao said:
The colossal arrogance one has to have to make this statement with absolute certainty is astounding. I'm not surprised it came from you.

So you are asserting that it is a fact that God is real? Or did you just not comprehend what was written in plain English in your haste to be a douchebag? I'm going with the latter.

futurecurrents · Jan 13, 2015

jem said:
wow the troll just acknowledged that there is no proof that life evolved from non life.
good work troll there is hope that you will stop lying about science.

note... less than a month ago the troll wrote this...
"...Besides, there is plenty of science showing how abiogenesis happened. Only a fool would think God did it. So of course you do."

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/hawking-god-did-not-create-universe.206063/page-25

Yes there is plenty of science showing how abiogenesis happened AND they don't know the exact pathway how that happened. Moron troll.

futurecurrents · Jan 13, 2015

BTW, it's telling that jerm uses the word troll all the time. It's like a confession.

Tsing Tao · Jan 13, 2015

futurecurrents said:
So you are asserting that it is a fact that God is real? Or did you just not comprehend what was written in plain English in your haste to be a douchebag? I'm going with the latter.

You would go with the latter, because you're a short-sighted individual. It's just your nature.

No, he-who-is-quick-to-call-others-"idiot", what I'm saying is that neither you nor I can claim it is a fact as to whether or whether or not God exists. To do so empirically states that we know all there is to know about the physical and metaphysical. And we clearly do not. We may state what we believe, and we may even present what we consider to be evidence to support our believe, but it is not fact. It is arrogant to state otherwise.

I believe in God. I cannot prove that God exists, so I cannot argue for it. That's why I have faith.

If you don't, then that's certainly your right.

And that's all.

stu · Jan 13, 2015

futurecurrents said:
So you are asserting that it is a fact that God is real? Or did you just not comprehend what was written in plain English in your haste to be a douchebag? I'm going with the latter.

Apparently switching the word real for the word exists is allowed if you believe in god.

Oh, and that's all.

futurecurrents · Jan 14, 2015

Tsing Tao said:
You would go with the latter, because you're a short-sighted individual. It's just your nature.

No, he-who-is-quick-to-call-others-"idiot", what I'm saying is that neither you nor I can claim it is a fact as to whether or whether or not God exists. To do so empirically states that we know all there is to know about the physical and metaphysical. And we clearly do not. We may state what we believe, and we may even present what we consider to be evidence to support our believe, but it is not fact. It is arrogant to state otherwise.

I believe in God. I cannot prove that God exists, so I cannot argue for it. That's why I have faith.

If you don't, then that's certainly your right.

And that's all.

But I didn't say that. I said one cannot say that God is a fact. Try comprehension next time before leaping into douchebaggery.

fhl · Jan 15, 2015

Tsing Tao · Jan 15, 2015

futurecurrents said:
But I didn't say that. I said one cannot say that God is a fact. Try comprehension next time before leaping into douchebaggery.

It's not my fault if you cannot express yourself clearly. You said "Except that God is real. That is not a fact." In that statement, you are making it absolutely clear that the statement "God is Real" is not a fact. You simply don't know if it is fact or not. None of us do.

futurecurrents · Jan 15, 2015

Tsing Tao said:
It's not my fault if you cannot express yourself clearly. You said "Except that God is real. That is not a fact." In that statement, you are making it absolutely clear that the statement "God is Real" is not a fact. You simply don't know if it is fact or not. None of us do.

Seriously? You must have very low criteria for what could be considered a fact. According to your "logic" we cannot say that the existence of unicorns is not a fact. Interesting.

jem · Jan 15, 2015

logically a creation would have a creator... that is far different than dreaming up unicorns.
ruling out a creation's creator... would logically require some other explanation.

futurecurrents said:
Seriously? You must have very low criteria for what could be considered a fact. According to your "logic" we cannot say that the existence of unicorns is not a fact. Interesting.