Creationism explained

Overnight said:
You not only did not answer the question, but you befuddled your answer with the fact that shortly after your time mark on the vid, the pastor says his mom got Baptized. So how does this prove that Jews are evidence of God?

Holy Jesus, you are SOOO confused.
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The answer is in her words, "He warned us. God warned us over and over again, He warned us."

28 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:..."
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But if they didn't obey then:

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:..."
From Deuteronomy 28
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studentofthemarkets said:
The answer is in her words, "He warned us. God warned us over and over again, He warned us."

28 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:..."
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But if they didn't obey then:

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:..."
From Deuteronomy 28
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There you go again. Every answer you have is Bible Bible Bible. You have no independent thought. It is a shame, because you seem a thoughtful and introspecting folk. But you are so STUCK on this idea that you are not in control of your own existence.

My mother was under this same illusion and spent most of her life trying to answer her life's questions from without, and never looking within. She jumped from her childhood as a Catholic to an Episcopalian, to a Jehovah Witness, then started following the studies of Brahma and the Yogis of India. Holy shit did that fuck her up. When the Yogis like Paramhansa Yogananda didn't giver her the answers she thought she needed after 30 years, she went back to Christianity and the LDS. All the back-and-forth eventually destroyed her mentally, and she died at the age 60 from cancer.

That cancer was caused by her life-long struggle to try to realize what she already knew, which is that all the truth is already inside of you. You do not need God to do something for you. You can just do it yourself.

But you know, the 1960s and the drugs fucked her up in a big way, so that stuff laid those pathways.

You are doing the same thing to yourself. I can see it. You are so laser-focused on making the Bible true for you, that you are going to burn out, and your mind is going to fizzle with it.

You NEED to think for yourself once in a while, and stop believing that an almighty deity has the answers for your soul. It does not. Only YOU do.

All you need to do is listen to your own heart. It ain't God in there...It is YOU.

 
Overnight said:
My mother was under this same illusion and spent most of her life trying to answer her life's questions from without, and never looking within. She jumped from her childhood as a Catholic to an Episcopalian, to a Jehovah Witness, then started following the studies of Brahma and the Yogis of India. Holy shit did that fuck her up. When the Yogis like Paramhansa Yogananda didn't giver her the answers she thought she needed after 30 years, she went back to Christianity and the LDS. All the back-and-forth eventually destroyed her mentally
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I'm sorry to hear that.

Finding Jesus is the best thing that can ever happen to someone though.
Overnight said:
You are doing the same thing to yourself. I can see it. You are so laser-focused on making the Bible true for you, that you are going to burn out, and your mind is going to fizzle with it.

You NEED to think for yourself once in a while, and stop believing that an almighty deity has the answers for your soul.
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No. If I fizzle out it won't be from God. In fact, God has helped me not lose my mind "when all about me are losing theirs and blaming it on me." OK, not exactly that, but I have been through some bad experiences and I KNOW that it was God who helped me stay afloat mentally. Not saying Christians can't have mental breakdowns, but I think I might have, about twice in my life, if it hadn't been for God helping me to overcome some extremely difficult circumstances. That doesn't mean that suddenly all was rosy, but I did have God with me. I mean, He brought verses to my mind when I needed them and He answered prayers so specifically that I knew He was watching over me, through the difficulties and He sent people at times to help encourage me...and sometimes when there was nobody, God Himself helped. I think I got near the place where I could have had some sort of breakdown or needed medical treatment, but thankfully I didn't not.

Happy endorphins recipe:


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studentofthemarkets said:
...I mean, He brought verses to my mind when I needed them and He answered prayers so specifically that I knew He was watching over me, through the difficulties and He sent people at times to help encourage me...and sometimes when there was nobody, God Himself helped. Not saying a Christian can't have a mental breakdown, but I think I was near that place and thankfully I didn't not.
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It was all you dude. It was not God that helped you through it. It was all within YOU. If you wish to give God a bit of credit, then you can say it that God was working through you. But it really was not. It was YOU! It was all YOU! It was you working God through YOU, because YOU are God!

All you need to do is listen to yourself, and not something outside of yourself that you think is a "God".

 
Overnight said:
It was all you dude. It was not God that helped you through it. It was all within YOU. If you wish to give God a bit of credit, then you can say it that God was working through you. But it really was not. It was YOU! It was all YOU!

All you need to do is listen to yourself, and not something outside of yourself that you think is a "God".

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It wasn't me. It was Someone outside of me, helping me. How do you explain circumstances changing suddenly or the time I was really overwhelmed with an issue and I went to a local prayer meeting and got prayed over (silently, actually, so I don't know what was said on my behalf) and suddenly all the depression was lifted. I didn't make the choice to lift it. I couldn't have said before the prayer meeting, OK, I want to stop thinking about the terrible circumstances that are affecting the lives of a few people close to me and have anything actually happen from will power.

But without ANY action or will on my part, I suddenly had a deep peace and much more trust in God's presence with me for what was ahead.
If that was NOT GOD, then there you have a recipe for every depressed person. Go get prayed over and immediately you will have peace and a lot of joy in Who God is and the joy that "Jesus in mine and I am His" and God will not punish me because He punished Jesus in my place and you can face your circumstances with emotional help from God!

See, if it was just the act of praying, and not God Himself working, then it could be replicated all the time by anyone, anywhere.
 
studentofthemarkets said:
It wasn't me. It was Someone outside of me, helping me. How do you explain circumstances changing suddenly or the time I was really overwhelmed with an issue and I went to a local prayer meeting and got prayed over (silently, actually, so I don't know what was said on my behalf) and suddenly all the depression was lifted. I didn't make the choice to lift it...

...But without ANY action or will on my part, I suddenly had a deep peace and much more trust in God's presence with me for what was ahead.
If that was NOT GOD, then there you have a recipe for every depressed person. Go get prayed over and immediately you will have peace and a lot of joy in Who God is and the joy that "Jesus in mine and I am His" and God will not punish me because He punished Jesus in my place and you can face your circumstances with emotional help from God!

See, if it was just the act of praying, and not God Himself working, then it could be replicated all the time by anyone, anywhere.
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OMG, seriously? You need to learn how to have some fun, independent of GOD and your Lord Jesus Christ. You are so uptight in the Lord you are going to die an early death of seriousness. FFS!

Learn to have FUN!

 
Overnight said:
OMG, seriously? You need to learn how to have some fun, independent of GOD and your Lord Jesus Christ. You are so uptight in the Lord you are going to die an early death of seriousness. FFS!

Learn to have FUN!

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It's Friday night and I'm headed out to a local sports event....I can be a Christian and have fun too!
 
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