Creating a Good Government

Quote from kid.fx.cross:

The Constitution aint nothing but a legal document written by lawyers to protect rich white land owners. And to hold it up like it was written on stone by God and carried down from the mountain....

Compare the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution, there are some glaring differences

and the fact that the Constitution can be amended by mob rule makes it even less sacred

for crying out loud, at one time the Constitution even took away my right to drink beer
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Sure. The Constitution is fallible. I agree. BUT ITS THE BEST WE GOT.

And, if the Country returned to the founding principles in the Bill of Rights and Constitution, America would be light years ahead of where it is right now.

There is no perfect Government. There is no perfect "system". Each system is run and controlled by humans. Humans are fallible and corrupted. Therefore, the best system is one that spreads power out in the broadest possible way (Federal State Local), and across Governmental bodies (Legislative, Executive, Judiciary). The original system intended by the Founders was really ingenious in that it embodied all the key principles of power dissemination and protection of liberties. Which is why the current lot are busy tearing down those separation of powers on all levels and hastily consolidating it.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

I don't agree that we (all Americans) got the government we deserve. Some of us did, but others got this shit foisted upon us.

I really never started with the people "wanting" or "asking for".... and certainly nobody (Boomers?) ever begged "give me _____, and charge it to my kids/grandkids." It was offered by scumbag politicos... "Vote for me and I'll give you money/benefits" sort of thing. When it first started, it was small and we hardly noticed. But over the years freebie handouts have increased to the point of creating a parasite class... one which actually controls the vote now.

And that's why the America that was once a great country is now finished.

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I agree. You're a patriot and many like you in the Boomer generation. But lots wern't patriots and shared a different vision for America, and the good ones like yourself, were outnumbered and lost.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

That's the rub. The Progressives always promised to "make America a better place"... but in reality, they've accomplished the opposite. And... THEY DID IT ON PURPOSE...THEY HAVE KNOWN ALL ALONG HOW SOCIALISM ENDS, BUT THEY DID IT ANYWAY...

The Founders had it correct. LIMITED Federal government... "The government which governs best governs least"... people responsible for and free to enjoy their own lives.
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Good points:cool:
President Thomas Jefferson said ''No free man shall be disbarred the use of arms''

Contrast that with all the Nazi[National Socialist] micro-managing gun laws in Germany, 1930's, 1940's:cool:
 
Quote from achilles28:

Sure. The Constitution is fallible. I agree. BUT ITS THE BEST WE GOT.

And, if the Country returned to the founding principles in the Bill of Rights and Constitution, America would be light years ahead of where it is right now.

There is no perfect Government. There is no perfect "system". Each system is run and controlled by humans. Humans are fallible and corrupted. Therefore, the best system is one that spreads power out in the broadest possible way (Federal State Local), and across Governmental bodies (Legislative, Executive, Judiciary). The original system intended by the Founders was really ingenious in that it embodied all the key principles of power dissemination and protection of liberties. Which is why the current lot are busy tearing down those separation of powers on all levels and hastily consolidating it.
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The founders didn't foresee a single economic class occupying leadership positions in most of those bodies. Couple the fact they have the same socioeconomic interests with the well-known revolving door between those positions, and you have nullified the dispersal protection you mentioned.
 
Quote from Ricter:

The founders didn't foresee a single economic class occupying leadership positions in most of those bodies. Couple the fact they have the same socioeconomic interests with the well-known revolving door between those positions, and you have nullified the dispersal protection you mentioned.
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Yup. You're right. They have to be exposed. Sad thing is, when presented with the truth, people might still go along with the system.
 
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Good points:cool:
President Thomas Jefferson said ''No free man shall be disbarred the use of arms''

Contrast that with all the Nazi[National Socialist] micro-managing gun laws in Germany, 1930's, 1940's:cool:
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Scary.
 
Quote from achilles28:

I agree. You're a patriot and many like you in the Boomer generation. But lots wern't patriots and shared a different vision for America, and the good ones like yourself, were outnumbered and lost.
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We didn't need a "diffeent vision for America". The Founders risked "their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor" to give us a form of government the world had never seen before... and look what it lead to until about 1900... economic powerhouse, land of the free and personal liberty, land of opportunity.

It was the Progressives/Democraps and their Socialist (false) utopia ideology and agenda which started us down the path to destruction.

Detroit is a microcosm of America's future.


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Quote from Ricter:

The founders didn't foresee a single economic class occupying leadership positions in most of those bodies. Couple the fact they have the same socioeconomic interests with the well-known revolving door between those positions, and you have nullified the dispersal protection you mentioned.
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And so you've just admitted that there is little difference between the "left and the right".

So why is it that you spend all of your time on here defending one political party ad absurdum?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Agreed. What can be done?
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I doubt anything short of a second Revolutionary War.. this time against our own government. No chance of that until 100,000,000 people are willing to take up arms go into the streets. It will be at least a couple of decades, I suspect, before enough of us get it and say "No Mas".

The Progressives/Democrap slave masters surely won't be slowing down their juggernaut voluntarily.


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