Covid Stats - 96% Underlying Conditions - 66% Locked Down

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96% had underlying conditions
66% were on lockdown


66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME and NOT essential workers - which begs question: Does lockdown even work?
  • A study of hospitals last week found that of 1,000 patients, 66 percent were people staying at home
  • 73% of the new hospitalizations were people aged 51 and over and 96% had underlying health conditions
  • Most were in Manhattan - 21% - but 18% of the new hospitalizations were in Long Island
  • In New York City, 90% of those who answered said they had not been taking public transport
  • Cuomo said it showed that the new infections were down to 'personal behavior' like not wearing masks or not hand washing enough
  • It prompts the question of whether lockdown even works or is necessary
  • Deaths, hospitalizations and intubations are all down but the state remains in lockdown until May 15
  • Cuomo said he is 'vindicated' by the states that are seeing numbers continue to rise throughout reopening
  • There are now 19,877 deaths in New York state and more than 321,000 cases of the virus
  • Across America, there have been more than 1million cases and 72,000 deaths
  • Recent data shows that while New York's numbers are decreasing, the rest of America's are on the rise
  • Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rus-hospitalizations-people-staying-HOME.html
 
Because Cuomo had the integrity to share these facts even though they clearly run counter to the narrative...

I have one thing to say...
Good Job Mr. Governor.

Now we need to get morons like Gavin Newsom to share real data like this.
Trump and Pence you should have been all over this.
Everyday 10,000 random tests in different areas.

Had you been getting this data out... low risk groups would have been back to work 30 days ago. Our country would not be heading for a depression.

We would not be a few months away from a health crisis for everything but Covid.
 
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So when you have a lock-down and most of the people are locked down then most of the patients in hospitals will still be be older, high risk individuals who locked down. Unfortunately other family members, friends, or essential workers who did not stay at home brought the virus to them.

Where is Captain Obvious when we need him?

The information presented by Cuomo hardly makes a case for not having a lockdown. You have to contort what he said pretty hard to come to that type of absurd conclusion.
 
1, 96% of the people who needed hospitalization had underlying conditions.
Do you understand what that means?

There is no point in locking down the low risk group.

If you wish to properly protect high risk groups...
We have isolate them better.

2. Any thinking person would realize these stats are surprising to those believing the narrative...

Cuomo thought that essential workers would be the ones getting sick.... that is not the case he said. He said it was shocking to him that the people getting sick were overwhelmingly not working.

“We were thinking that maybe we were going to find a higher percentage of essential employees were getting sick because they were going to work. That this maybe was nurses, doctors, transit workers—that’s not the case,” Cuomo said. Some 83% of new patients are out of work or retired, and aren’t even leaving their home on a daily basis.


“This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. "

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...york-are-people-who-stayed-at-home-2020-05-06


So low risk essential workers were not getting hospitalized but locked down high risk groups were.

The logical conclusion is that the low risk group should go back to work and the high risk group needs to isolate themselves better.





gwb-trading said:
So when you have a lock-down and most of the people are locked down then most of the patients in hospitals will still be be older, high risk individuals who locked down. Unfortunately other family members, friends, or essential workers who did not stay at home brought the virus to them.

Where is Captain Obvious when we need him?

The information presented by Cuomo hardly makes a case for not having a lockdown. You have to contort what he said pretty hard to come to that type of absurd conclusion.
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"Cuomo thought that essential workers would be the ones getting sick.... that is not the case he said. He said it was shocking to him that the people getting sick were overwhelmingly not working."

That is not exactly what he said. His statement and context was that he was surprised that more essential workers were not hospitalized.

There are plenty of essential workers getting sick with COVID-19. Since essential workers tend to be younger they don't land up hospitalized. However when these essential workers do get sick COVID-19 still totally wipes them out for a period of several weeks - making them unable to work. I would not wish a case of COVID-19 on any one -- even a mild one.

If you want to see examples of large numbers of younger low-risk essential workers getting sick but not hospitalized to the point that a business cannot operate --- just look at the many meat processing plants that have shut down because 70% of their workforce is out sick.
 
this is exactly what he said... per the article... it used quotes...
I paraphrased what he said and then provided you with the exact quote.



“We were thinking that maybe we were going to find a higher percentage of essential employees were getting sick because they were going to work. That this maybe was nurses, doctors, transit workers—that’s not the case,” Cuomo said. Some 83% of new patients are out of work or retired, and aren’t even leaving their home on a daily basis.


“This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...york-are-people-who-stayed-at-home-2020-05-06
 
you are so dense ... on this topic.

you are making my point.
low risk people catch Covid but don't require hospitalization as much.

So that if we let them work ... they are unlikely to overwhelm the hospitals.
That is why we call them low risk.

Lockdown is not about preventing infections.
how many times do we have go over this.
We can't stay home forever. The virus is not going away just cause we are lockdown. Cuomo's stats taught you that if they taught you anything.
Fauci warns of a second wave.

Low risk groups are going to have to work and some will get infected. maybe all.
 
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jem said:
1, 96% of the people who needed hospitalization had underlying conditions.
Do you understand what that means?

There is no point in locking down the low risk group.

If you wish to properly protect high risk groups...
We have isolate them better.

2. Any thinking person would realize these stats are surprising to those believing the narrative...

Cuomo thought that essential workers would be the ones getting sick.... that is not the case he said. He said it was shocking to him that the people getting sick were overwhelmingly not working.

“We were thinking that maybe we were going to find a higher percentage of essential employees were getting sick because they were going to work. That this maybe was nurses, doctors, transit workers—that’s not the case,” Cuomo said. Some 83% of new patients are out of work or retired, and aren’t even leaving their home on a daily basis.


“This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. "

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...york-are-people-who-stayed-at-home-2020-05-06


So low risk essential workers were not getting hospitalized but locked down high risk groups were.

The logical conclusion is that the low risk group should go back to work and the high risk group needs to isolate themselves better.
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For the record, locking down the risk group prevents spread to the high risk group. That’s the point.

The other point, about half of the country has an underlying medical condition.
 
for the record... the lockdown was sold to us as shifting cases in time so that we had the hospital beds.

Lockdown does not prevent the spread, it slows it down.
It clearly does not prevent the spread. Look what Cuomo reported today.

We have essential workers. We go to the store.
Cuomo pointed out 66% of the people who were hospitalized were locked down.
80 percent were either locked down or worked from home.

If you want to prevent the spread to high risk groups... you have to isolate them.

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If half the country has an underlying medical condition and that condition makes them high risk relative to Corona. They should probably stay home until we have a vaccine or therapies which will work for them.

The other half should be out of lockdown 30 days ago.
Nobody has produced data or science saying locking down the low risk group does any good overall. Locking down does a ton of damage.





UsualName said:
For the record, locking down the risk group prevents spread to the high risk group. That’s the point.

The other point, about half of the country has an underlying medical condition.
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UsualName said:
about half of the country has an underlying medical condition.
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Indeed they have.


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