Covid Relief and Stimulus package 3.0

[gwb-trading]

I thought "unemployment benefits" only went to those that were actively looking for work ?

Instead, you guys make it sound like people in the U.S. have been getting unemployment checks...sitting at home and not looking for jobs.

wrbtrader

Under the current rules there is no requirement that an unemployed person actively seek work. Formerly an unemployed person would have to submit how many jobs they applied for in the previous week and the progress in getting a job. Not any more. They can sit home on their couch watching TV and collect the money,

 

[wrbtrader]

Under the current rules there is no requirement that an unemployed person actively seek work. Formerly an unemployed person would have to submit how many jobs they applied for in the previous week and the progress in getting a job. Not any more. They can sit home on their couch watching TV and collect the money,

Wow...I did not know that. Then again, all of my relatives in the U.S. have been employed during this Pandemic.

Different story in France.

wrbtrader

 

[UsualName]

Extend unemployment payments and nobody wants to work... despite jobs readily being available.

Restaurant owners looking to hire more staff say, ‘No one wants to work’
https://www.cbs17.com/news/national...-to-hire-more-staff-say-no-one-wants-to-work/

Several places across Central Illinois are hiring, but they say they can’t find people who want a job.

Nick Morganthaller, who owns two restaurants in Decatur, knows this better than most. He said business has picked up, but it’s been “impossible to find anybody that wants to come to work.”

Morganthaller said he’s posted ads saying the restaurants are looking to hire more staff, but after one full month, he’s only received one application. He blames this on the government’s financial assistance.

“The government has made it too easy just basically with all the stimulus money, and then the extra money on the unemployment, and then extending the unemployment for people that have just been on unemployment,” he said “They make more money to stay home than work.”

Morganthaller said he and his staff have to work 12- to 14-hour shifts every day just to keep the business afloat, adding that the long hours “take a toll.”

“My whole kitchen needs more help,” he said. “I’m glad that we’re closed on Mondays because we get a break.”

Leah Stukins has run into similar problems. She also owns a restaurant in Decatur and said she’s opening a new one across the street from her other place in a few weeks. She’s trying to hire more people to work but hasn’t had much luck so far.

“We’ve placed a few ads on the internet and have not gotten a lot of responses, so we’re going to try a couple other avenues and see what we can do because these are good positions,” she said.

Stukins said as the weather gets warmer, she expects the restaurant to get even busier. She’s hopeful she’ll be able to hire more employees before the summertime.

Local employment offices say there are too many jobs to fill and not enough people wanting to work, but they expect this to change when unemployment runs out.

President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion relief package extended the $300 weekly unemployment benefits through Sept. 4.

Before Biden signed the legislation last week, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell expressed concern about the unemployment benefits.

“There is a concern about making it more advantageous to stay home rather than going back to work,” McConnell said earlier this month on Fox News Channel’s “The Story with Martha MacCallum.”

The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits rose last week to 770,000 — climbing from 725,000 the week before — in a sign that layoffs remain high even as much of the U.S. economy is steadily recovering from the coronavirus recession.

A total of 4.1 million people are continuing to collect traditional state unemployment benefits, down 18,000 from the previous week. Including separate federal programs that are intended to help workers displaced by the health crisis, 18.2 million Americans were receiving some form of jobless aid in the week of Feb. 27, down by 1.9 million from the week before.

No mention of what wages the restaurant is offering...

 

[userque]

Wow...I did not know that. Then again, all of my relatives in the U.S. have been employed during this Pandemic.

Different story in France.

wrbtrader

Really, you believe that bullshit ... from GWB ... without him citing a source? Wow!

First. Each state handles those benefits. There is no one size fits all. But ... [see quote below]

Guide To Unemployment Benefits
February 9, 2021
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/guide-to-unemployment-benefits#:~:text=In almost every state, you,your state's unemployment benefits agency.

"...In almost every state, you are required to actively search for new work opportunities while on unemployment. This means that while you are receiving benefits, you should be searching and applying for new jobs as outlined by your state’s unemployment benefits agency. ..."

EDIT:

In GWB's defense, there is a lot of confusion on the issue:

Most Job Search Requirements for Unemployment Benefits Are Waived. So Why Do State Websites Say Otherwise?
MAY 11, 2020
https://money.com/unemployment-bene...DxWD2dLngiWx3wVVGhFUFqMxAU4k2KQmEFdgd4Upa1IhY

You may soon lose unemployment benefits — and that extra $600 a week — if you’re not hunting for jobs
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 8 2020 9:20 AM EDT UPDATED WED, JUL 8 2020 4:19 PM EDT
[emphasis added]
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/sta...les-to-qualify-for-unemployment-benefits.html

"...Many states are pushing jobless residents to get back to work — and are using their unemployment benefits as leverage.

State officials are re-imposing rules requiring unemployed workers to look for work as a condition of receiving their weekly jobless benefits. ..."

 

[wrbtrader]

Really, you believe that bullshit ... from GWB ... without him citing a source? Wow!

First. Each state handles those benefits. There is no one size fits all. But ... [see quote below]

Guide To Unemployment Benefits
February 9, 2021
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/guide-to-unemployment-benefits#:~:text=In almost every state, you,your state's unemployment benefits agency.

"...In almost every state, you are required to actively search for new work opportunities while on unemployment. This means that while you are receiving benefits, you should be searching and applying for new jobs as outlined by your state’s unemployment benefits agency. ..."

EDIT:

In GWB's defense, there is a lot of confusion on the issue:

Most Job Search Requirements for Unemployment Benefits Are Waived. So Why Do State Websites Say Otherwise?
MAY 11, 2020
https://money.com/unemployment-bene...DxWD2dLngiWx3wVVGhFUFqMxAU4k2KQmEFdgd4Upa1IhY

You may soon lose unemployment benefits — and that extra $600 a week — if you’re not hunting for jobs
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 8 2020 9:20 AM EDT UPDATED WED, JUL 8 2020 4:19 PM EDT
[emphasis added]
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/sta...les-to-qualify-for-unemployment-benefits.html

"...Many states are pushing jobless residents to get back to work — and are using their unemployment benefits as leverage.

State officials are re-imposing rules requiring unemployed workers to look for work as a condition of receiving their weekly jobless benefits. ..."

Why then is there so much bitching by people on social media, even here at ET too, about others receiving Unemployment Benefits if those people are receiving such while actively trying to find work ???

This bitching has been going on since the fall of 2020.

Simply, if someone is getting the benefits...seems to me they must have earned such because they had been actively looking for employment.

Note: Most (not all) of such debates were by those supporting the GOP...referring those getting the benefits as sitting home and choosing to not work.

wrbtrader

 

[userque]

Why then is there so much bitching by people on social media, even here at ET too, about others receiving Unemployment Benefits if those people are receiving such while actively trying to find work ???

This bitching has been going on since the fall of 2020.

Simply, if someone is getting the benefits...seems to me they must have earned such because they had been actively looking for employment.

Note: Most (not all) of such debates were by those supporting the GOP...referring those getting the benefits as sitting home and choosing to not work.

wrbtrader

They tend to be more illogical and uninformed. They tend to whine a lot, while calling others snowflakes.

But truthfully, I can't say why they:

• Say they believe in democracy, but want to overthrow an election via lies,
• Say they believe in democracy, but want to suppress the voice of people regarding canceling past wrongs, or wrong-doers.
• Believe in Jewish space lasers,
• Believe in Dems eating babies,
• Believe in Pizza parlor child sex rings,
• Believe in Q-anon,
• Believe in other stupid shit.

 

[gwb-trading]

Really, you believe that bullshit ... from GWB ... without him citing a source? Wow!

First. Each state handles those benefits. There is no one size fits all. But ... [see quote below]

Guide To Unemployment Benefits
February 9, 2021
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/guide-to-unemployment-benefits#:~:text=In almost every state, you,your state's unemployment benefits agency.

"...In almost every state, you are required to actively search for new work opportunities while on unemployment. This means that while you are receiving benefits, you should be searching and applying for new jobs as outlined by your state’s unemployment benefits agency. ..."

EDIT:

In GWB's defense, there is a lot of confusion on the issue:

Most Job Search Requirements for Unemployment Benefits Are Waived. So Why Do State Websites Say Otherwise?
MAY 11, 2020
https://money.com/unemployment-bene...DxWD2dLngiWx3wVVGhFUFqMxAU4k2KQmEFdgd4Upa1IhY

You may soon lose unemployment benefits — and that extra $600 a week — if you’re not hunting for jobs
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 8 2020 9:20 AM EDT UPDATED WED, JUL 8 2020 4:19 PM EDT
[emphasis added]
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/sta...les-to-qualify-for-unemployment-benefits.html

"...Many states are pushing jobless residents to get back to work — and are using their unemployment benefits as leverage.

State officials are re-imposing rules requiring unemployed workers to look for work as a condition of receiving their weekly jobless benefits. ..."

Let's start with the North Carolina rules on pandemic unemployment.
https://abc11.com/nc-unemployment-in-north-carolina-federal-pandemic-compensation/6090531/

Do I have to search for work while filing for unemployment?
If you are out of work as a result of COVID-19, you do not have to conduct a work search while filing for unemployment.

Of course we can start spot checking other states such as Wisconsin. For Pandemic Unemployment there is no requirement to search for work. This standard to have no requirement to search for work just was extended in 2021.
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/ui/worksearch/

I heard the work search is no longer waived as of February 7, 2021. Is that true?
No. The work search requirement will continue to be waived at this time. We will update you when that changes.

Is a claimant required to search for work during the COVID-19 pandemic?
As a result of an Emergency Rule you do not need to do a work search at this time. No action is needed on your part regarding the work search. However, some individuals may be required to register with JCW. These are two separate requirements.

I think you will find that no states have a requirement to search for work as a part of pandemic unemployment assistance (PUA)

 

[userque]

Let's start with the North Carolina rules on pandemic unemployment.
https://abc11.com/nc-unemployment-in-north-carolina-federal-pandemic-compensation/6090531/

Do I have to search for work while filing for unemployment?
If you are out of work as a result of COVID-19, you do not have to conduct a work search while filing for unemployment.

Of course we can start spot checking other states such as Wisconsin. For Pandemic Unemployment there is no requirement to search for work. This standard to have no requirement to search for work just was extended in 2021.
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/ui/worksearch/

I heard the work search is no longer waived as of February 7, 2021. Is that true?
No. The work search requirement will continue to be waived at this time. We will update you when that changes.

Is a claimant required to search for work during the COVID-19 pandemic?
As a result of an Emergency Rule you do not need to do a work search at this time. No action is needed on your part regarding the work search. However, some individuals may be required to register with JCW. These are two separate requirements.

I think you will find that no states have a requirement to search for work as a part of pandemic unemployment assistance (PUA)

I see you've moved the goal post again. Your signature move. I picked your first cherry-picked state, NC, to respond to:

To keep benefits, jobless North Carolinians will soon need to start looking for work
MARCH 01, 2021 06:28 PM, UPDATED MARCH 02, 2021 09:42 AM
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/p...people in North Carolina,has been in the past.

"...Unemployed people in North Carolina are going to have to start proving they’re looking for work if they want to keep getting paid jobless benefits.

On Monday, Gov. Roy Cooper issued an executive order that will institute that work search requirement but will also make it more flexible than what it has been in the past. People currently on unemployment won’t be affected; Cooper’s order will only apply to “new claimants who apply for unemployment benefits on or after March 14, 2021.”..."

 

[Overnight]

The whole problem with "looking for work" is that it is an unenforceable sham.

When I was getting unemployment 20 years ago in NY, to continue receiving the fed's 2001 unemployment checks from 9/11, all I had to do was call an automated system that asked simple questions...

1. Have you been unemployed for the previous week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

2. Have you been seeking gainful employment for the past week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

3. Will you continue to seek employment for the next week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

Thank you. You will receive your next unemployment payment on "Stutter computer voice date read-out."

I am sure it is the same today, as it was back then.

It is too bad @DiceAreCast put me on ignore, because otherwise he could see me replying to a real thread with a real post with none of my stupid videos in it. His loss, your gain.

 

[userque]

The whole problem with "looking for work" is that it is an unenforceable sham.

When I was getting unemployment 20 years ago in NY, to continue receiving the fed's 2001 unemployment checks from 9/11, all I had to do was call an automated system that asked simple questions...

1. Have you been unemployed for the previous week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

2. Have you been seeking gainful employment for the past week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

3. Will you continue to seek employment for the next week? If yes, press 1. If no, press 2.

Thank you. You will receive your next unemployment payment on "Stutter computer voice date read-out."

I am sure it is the same today, as it was back then.

It is too bad @DiceAreCast put me on ignore, because otherwise he could see me replying to a real thread with a real post with none of my stupid videos in it. His loss, your gain.

You really think it hasn't changed in 20 years?