COVID-19

gwb-trading said:
TreeFrogTrader, Tsing Tao and CPAC attendees have agreed to provide anal swabs for educators....

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Dude, I told you to stop messaging me, GWB. Once we get the anal swab thing going, you'll be the first to know and can sign up.

And no, we don't have one called "the tickler". Please stop asking.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Dude, I told you to stop messaging me, GWB. Once we get the anal swab thing going, you'll be the first to know and can sign up.

And no, we don't have one called "the tickler". Please stop asking.
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Oh... do please post the pic of the messages you claim I sent you.

BTW -- Photoshop will be your friend.


P.S. - it may be wise keep your sordid fantasies off the internet.

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gwb-trading said:
Oh... do please post the pic of the messages you claim I sent you.

BTW -- Photoshop will be your friend.


P.S. - it may be wise keep your sordid fantasies off the internet.

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I deleted them. You're a sick dude. I wish I could unsee them, but alas that isn't how life works.
 
gwb-trading said:
More COVID re-infection examples - this time in nursing homes.

CDC study finds nursing home residents who appear to have recovered from Covid were reinfected with an even worse case
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/25/cdc...were-reinfected-with-worse-case-of-covid.html
  • A new CDC study published Thursday suggests some people may be susceptible to reinfection from the coronavirus and could have worse outcomes following their second infection.
  • Reinfection means that a person was infected with the virus, recovered and then later became infected again, though it’s thought to be rare, according to the CDC.
  • The new study found five nursing home residents tested positive during two separate outbreaks with multiple negative tests in between, suggesting they were reinfected with the virus.
A new CDC study found that some elderly people who apparently recovered from the coronavirus later came down with a second, even worse case — indicating that asymptomatic or mild cases may not provide a lot of protection against becoming reinfected with Covid-19.

The study, published Thursday in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, studied two separate outbreaks that occurred three months apart at a skilled nursing facility in Kentucky. Between mid-July and mid-August, 20 residents and five health-care personnel tested positive for the virus, according to the study.

The second outbreak, between late October and the beginning of December, was worse — 85 residents and 43 health-care personnel tested positive for the virus. Among the residents who tested positive during the first outbreak and were still living in the facility, five of them tested positive a second time more than 90 days after their first positive test.

Though Covid-19 reinfections do happen, they are generally rare.

Through frequent surveillance after the first outbreak, all five residents had at least four negative tests between outbreaks, suggesting they were potentially reinfected with the virus later on, the study found. Reinfection means that a person who had Covid-19 recovered and then got it again, according to the CDC.

“The exposure history, including the timing of roommates’ infections and the new onset of symptoms during the second outbreak, suggest that the second positive RT-PCR results represented new infections after the patients apparently cleared the first infection,” wrote Alyson Cavanaugh, one of the researchers who led the study.

While only two of the five residents experienced slight symptoms during the first outbreak, all five potentially reinfected residents showed signs of illness the second time. The two residents who reported symptoms during the first outbreak “experienced more severe symptoms during the second infectious episode,” according to the study. One resident was hospitalized and subsequently died.

According to the study’s researchers, this was “noteworthy” because it suggests the possibility that people who show mild to no symptoms during their first infections “do not produce a sufficiently robust immune response to prevent reinfection.” The results “suggest the possibility that disease can be more severe during a second infection.”

“The findings of this study highlight the importance of maintaining public health mitigation and protection strategies that reduce transmission risk, even among persons with a history of COVID-19 infection,” Cavanaugh wrote.

The study noted some limitations. Because specimens were not stored, researchers couldn’t conduct genomic sequencing, a laboratory technique that breaks down the virus’s genetic code, to confirm reinfection, researchers said. Also, “no additional test results exist to support the initial test result as a true positive” during the first outbreak, they said.

It’s thought that the risk of reinfection for the general population is still low, but nursing home residents may be particularly at risk given their congregate living and high number of exposures, according to the study.

“Skilled nursing facilities should use strategies to reduce the risk for SARS-CoV-2 transmission among all residents, including among those who have previously had a COVID-19 diagnosis,” Cavanaugh wrote.
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As I have discussed before, we have vaccinations against the flu and pneumonia but pneumonia- for example- is still the primary precipitating cause of death in nursing homes. Once a patient becomes severely ill/ aged from some other cause, they cannot fight off the pneumonia even if they have had the vaccine.

There is every reason that this will be true for covid vaccine or any other vaccine. You must have at least some level of immune system functioning in your body in order for a person to develop antibodies/t-cells in response to either contracting the virus or being vaccinated. A vaccination gooses your immune system but cannot rebuild one if you are too far gone. So some of this re-infection thing just goes with the turf- especially for the very old.

In addition, people forget the basics. The basics are that the trial studies show - for example- that a vaccine may be 80% effective. Then there is a flood of articles on some people who in fact end out getting sick after taking the vaccine. Helloooooooo. Revisit the data. It's like some guy who has data showing that 80% of his trades are successful but then someone is aghast when they find out that he has some losing trades. Hellooooo encore.

This is a numbers game where the laws of large numbers apply. Specific individuals may fall outside of that. duh.

We can't change human nature though and very soon we will be flooded in the media with stories about people who got vaccinated and still became ill. When in fact the focus of much of the data and studies was based on hospitalizations and deaths.
 
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Brazil variant causes Covid reinfections in up to 61%, say scientists
The variant is also 1.4 to 2.2 times more transmissible than the normal strain of the virus found in the Amazon basin
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/hea...nt-reinfections-natural-immunity-b921810.html

The Brazil variant is able to evade “natural immunity” in up to 61 per cent of people who previously had Covid-19 and cause a reinfection, scientists revealed today.

The variant, which has been discovered in six Britons, is also 1.4 to 2.2 times more transmissible than the normal strain of the virus found in the Amazon basin.

But the results, based on the impact of the variant in Manaus, the Brazilian city where it was first detected in December, may not indicate its potential to spread in the UK.

Researchers at Imperial College London, Oxford and the University of Sao Paulo today published a draft of the first genomic and epidemiological study into the Brazil variant known as P1.

Lead researcher Dr Nuno Faria, of Imperial, said that in Manaus the variant was able to evade 25 to 61 per cent of antibody protection in people who had previously had the city’s main strain of Covid-19, leaving them susceptible to reinfection with P1.

About 25 countries have reported cases of P1. Today it emerged that these include the US, Canada, France, Germany and Spain — countries not on the UK’s red list, from which travel is banned to all but UK residents.

In Manaus, the variant grew from zero cases to 87 per cent of cases in eight weeks, causing a second Covid-19 peak between November and January.

Responding to the research, Professor Sharon Peacock, director of COG-UK, the UK’s genomics consortium, said the question of how the findings related to the UK was “yet to be determined”.

She said: “The majority of [Covid-19] disease in the UK is caused by the B1.1.7 [Kent] variant, which we can vaccinate against using the vaccines we have available at the moment. We should be optimistic and pushing on with that vaccination [programme].”

She added: “At the present time, I don’t believe there is any threat to our vaccination strategy or likely effectiveness.”

The researchers said the P1 variant appeared to be similarly transmissible to the South African variant also seen in small numbers in the UK.

However it was impossible to say at this stage whether P1 was more transmissible than the dominant Kent variant — or whether its ability to evade natural immunity, as seen in Manaus, would also be true for Britons who had acquired natural immunity from the Kent variant.

Separate research today from the Office for National Statistics revealed that more than 29 per cent of Londoners would have tested positive for antibodies in the month to mid-February, the highest rate in the country.
 
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-reportedly-quietly-funded-165519534.html

The Trump administration reportedly quietly funded Operation Warp Speed with money set aside for hospitals


By late summer last year, Operation Warp Speed accounts were running dry, so the Trump administration appears to have used a financial maneuver allowing Department of Health and Human Services officials to divert $10 billion from a fund meant to help hospitals and health care providers affected by the coronavirus pandemic, Stat News reports.

Congress granted the HHS permission to move pandemic-related money between accounts, though the agreement stipulated the agency had to give lawmakers a heads up. In this case, it appears the HHS siphoned the funds quietly, albeit with permission from its top lawyer. Other attorneys told Stat that the agency likely did have the wiggle room to carry out the action.

Former Office of Management and Director Russ Vought defended the decision and said "we would do it again," telling Stat that not only did the administration have the authority, it was also "the right thing to do in order to move as quickly as possible because lives were on the line." Other Trump officials seemed to agree, per Stat, arguing that successful vaccines would reduce hospitalizations, making Warp Speed the more consequential outlet.

It's still unclear whether the decision has resulted in less money for health care providers, as the Biden administration remains mum on the subject, Stat reports. Read more at Stat News.
 
Here4money said:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-reportedly-quietly-funded-165519534.html

The Trump administration reportedly quietly funded Operation Warp Speed with money set aside for hospitals


By late summer last year, Operation Warp Speed accounts were running dry, so the Trump administration appears to have used a financial maneuver allowing Department of Health and Human Services officials to divert $10 billion from a fund meant to help hospitals and health care providers affected by the coronavirus pandemic, Stat News reports.

Congress granted the HHS permission to move pandemic-related money between accounts, though the agreement stipulated the agency had to give lawmakers a heads up. In this case, it appears the HHS siphoned the funds quietly, albeit with permission from its top lawyer. Other attorneys told Stat that the agency likely did have the wiggle room to carry out the action.

Former Office of Management and Director Russ Vought defended the decision and said "we would do it again," telling Stat that not only did the administration have the authority, it was also "the right thing to do in order to move as quickly as possible because lives were on the line." Other Trump officials seemed to agree, per Stat, arguing that successful vaccines would reduce hospitalizations, making Warp Speed the more consequential outlet.

It's still unclear whether the decision has resulted in less money for health care providers, as the Biden administration remains mum on the subject, Stat reports. Read more at Stat News.
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So they basically took money designated to be used to purchase PPE for doctors and nurses and moved it over to an undesignated use — most likely leading to deaths and illness of doctors and nurses from COVID.
 
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