CoVID-19 Vaccine!!

d08 · Feb 24, 2020

ktm said:
It won't happen like that.

It's like curing cancer. We won't ever have this giant headline that cancer is cured. It's more complicated. There will be trials that will be followed closely, good results and bad results. Even at this point a vaccine isn't a huge deal as it's only 2% fatal. The bigger issue is understanding contagious periods and getting (at risk) people to cooperate and behave. The concern is legit, but I agree it's likely also transient. The equity drop is a good housecleaning, but we're getting into an area where there will be material economic slowing from quarantining and closing so much stuff in more and more areas.

Cancer is quite different in almost every way. Coronavirus is a virus after all and vaccinating for a virus has been done, for a cancer though...

ironchef · Feb 25, 2020

tommcginnis said:
Doctors in The Vienna Institute For Viruletic Researches have announced their intention to release.....

What are you going to do with that headline?

Long GILD calls.

tommcginnis · Feb 25, 2020

ironchef said:
Long GILD calls.

If the headline hit tomorrow, and gold fell 5% in a day, you'd certainly have made friends among all the shorts -- if that was your goal. :wtf:

ironchef · Feb 25, 2020

tommcginnis said:
If the headline hit tomorrow, and gold fell 5% in a day, you'd certainly have made friends among all the shorts -- if that was your goal.

No. I have been long GILD calls since mid January.

tommcginnis · Feb 25, 2020

ironchef said:
No. I have been long GILD calls since mid January.

Argh! I did not recognize Gilead Sciences GILD -- too much index time -- I was thinking GLD.

Anyway, nice call on viru-sciences.

(Still, I might have my hand on the mouse, would the headline drop and GILD not be mentioned...!)

stevegee58 · Feb 25, 2020

Turveyd said:
Possibly WRONG on CANCER, they have a T-Cel genetic engineering replacement therapy, 100% successful on Animal trails about to start human trials and it works on ALL Cancers.

Something, straight out of I am Legend, hopefully without the side effects.

What? You don't want to be a vampire?

Turveyd · Feb 25, 2020

stevegee58 said:
What? You don't want to be a vampire?

Never considered vampire always thought zombie but yeah makes more sense.

ktm · Feb 25, 2020

Turveyd said:
Possibly WRONG on CANCER, they have a T-Cel genetic engineering replacement therapy, 100% successful on Animal trails about to start human trials and it works on ALL Cancers.

Something, straight out of I am Legend, hopefully without the side effects.

Cancer is not ONE THING. It's more than 100 separate diseases generically categorized for easy understanding by the public. The general commonality is that at the cellular level, a single cell begins to grow in an abnormal way and then proliferates. If this happens in the brain, it's very different from the pancreas or the prostate as these are different types of cells experiencing different mutations for different reasons in different individuals.

Glioblastoma has been "cured" in about 15% of the affected population that has certain genetic markers. Other specific cancers have seen significant progress in terms of therapy and treatment that will control and in some cases eliminate cancerous growths. Nothing is even close to working on all cancers and the things that are working - while in similar categories of approach - are vastly different from each other.

ktm · Feb 25, 2020

d08 said:
Cancer is quite different in almost every way. Coronavirus is a virus after all and vaccinating for a virus has been done, for a cancer though...

COVID-19 has a number of known mutations that have been noted already and the early PCR based tests had significant false positives. The mapping is far from done on the base virus, and the mutations are still emerging sporadically. And that's before anyone has thrown anything at it.

At best, any working vaccine will be given a percentage effectiveness number similar to the annual flu vaccine in the US.

ironchef · Feb 25, 2020

tommcginnis said:
Argh! I did not recognize Gilead Sciences GILD -- too much index time -- I was thinking GLD.

Anyway, nice call on viru-sciences.

(Still, I might have my hand on the mouse, would the headline drop and GILD not be mentioned...!)

Thanks.

Just a lucky hunch. Probably should quit while I was ahead yesterday as GILD dropped today. :mad:

Still profitable though.

Thank you for your coaching. I normally like to spend all my theta when I was long but will take your comments seriously since I think GILD's remdesivir is very iffy against CoVID-19.

Best regards,