Immunity from being infected with the virus weakens in 8 to 12 weeks to the point where the immunity is no longer present at a level to be effective. Studies also show that 40% of people don't develop anti-body immunity after being infected to a level that would prevent re-infection even in the near-term weeks. All of this has been documented in previous threads -- I would urge you to go read them and educate yourself.
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COVID-19 Superspreader Leslie Stahl! What the hell is this lady doing?
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Immunity from being infected with the virus weakens in 8 to 12 weeks to the point where the immunity is no longer present at a level to be effective. Studies also show that 40% of people don't develop anti-body immunity after being infected to a level that would prevent re-infection even in the near-term weeks. All of this has been documented in previous threads -- I would urge you to go read them and educate yourself.
I grow weary of correcting your and mispresentations of the facts and the scence.
1. Stahl had Covid in early May according to the link posted above.
So... why isn't she wearing mask if what you say is correct.
I will tell you why because you are full of shit again.
2. The study you posted never said everyone's immunity goes away after 8 to 12 weeks. You pulled that statement out of you ass... and we corrected you back then. Scientists have said it seems the harder people are hit with Covid and recover typically the stronger and longer lasting their antibodies. Its not just 8 to 12 weeks. It varies.
plus...
3. We know from the studies I posted that antibodies are not the only immunity which develops. Studies have found we also develop T cell immunity and B Cell immunity may help those avoid a second infection by crushing it quickly.
4. I never saw any study quote or article state they know what levels of antibodies and T cell you need to prevent reinfection. I would love to read such a study. If you were correct we should have millions of re infections by now. So far I have read about an handful.
You are going to have to post that link... because I would bet a hundred bucks you are mispresenting the article or study. You are probably taking and observation... and pretending it applies to everyone. You are the most illogical reader of studies on the board.
1. Stahl had Covid in early May according to the link posted above.
So... why isn't she wearing mask if what you say is correct.
I will tell you why because you are full of shit again.
2. The study you posted never said everyone's immunity goes away after 8 to 12 weeks. You pulled that statement out of you ass... and we corrected you back then. Scientists have said it seems the harder people are hit with Covid and recover typically the stronger and longer lasting their antibodies. Its not just 8 to 12 weeks. It varies.
plus...
3. We know from the studies I posted that antibodies are not the only immunity which develops. Studies have found we also develop T cell immunity and B Cell immunity may help those avoid a second infection by crushing it quickly.
4. I never saw any study quote or article state they know what levels of antibodies and T cell you need to prevent reinfection. I would love to read such a study. If you were correct we should have millions of re infections by now. So far I have read about an handful.
You are going to have to post that link... because I would bet a hundred bucks you are mispresenting the article or study. You are probably taking and observation... and pretending it applies to everyone. You are the most illogical reader of studies on the board.
Immunity from being infected with the virus weakens in 8 to 12 weeks to the point where the immunity is no longer present at a level to be effective. Studies also show that 40% of people don't develop anti-body immunity after being infected to a level that would prevent re-infection even in the near-term weeks. All of this has been documented in previous threads -- I would urge you to go read them and educate yourself.
I grow weary of correcting your and mispresentations of the facts and the scence.
1. Stahl had Covid in early May according to the link posted above.
So... why isn't she wearing mask. I will tell you why.
you are full of shit again.
2. of what you said has is accurate.
You posted a study where some people's antibodies may decrease. But scientists tell us the harder people are hit with Covid and recover typically the stronger and longer lasting their antibodies.
3. We know from the studies I posted that antibodies are not the only immunity which develops. We may also have T an B Cell immunities.
4. I never saw any body say they know what levels you need to be at to prevent reinfection. If you were correct we should have millions of re infections by now. So far I have read about an handful.
You are going to have to post that link... because I would bet a hundred bucks you are mispresenting the article or study. You are probably taking and observation... and pretending it applies to everyone. You are the most illogical reader of studies on the board.
Your T-Call immunity claims are nonsense. As carefully explained before - T-Cell "immunity" may allow you to get less of a severe case of COVID -- but it is not anti-body immunity -- nor does T-Cell "immunity" make you immune to COVID in any manner. In fact T-Cell "immunity" may actually increase the spread of COVID because the person may have minimal symptoms and go out and spread COVID to others.
Information on re-infections -- with documented cases occurring everyday are being found all over the globe -- and yes, re-infection case volumes are exploding because we are right on the cusp of waning immunity from the previous large infection peaks across the globe.
I have posted multiple articles and studies on this subject.. you have commented about them. I correct you... then you go back to your previous ignorant state. Here is a more recent one....below.
Emerging Data Support Lasting COVID-19 Immunity Via T Cells
September 18, 2020
Grant M. Gallagher
Antibodies are just one part of the body's immune response. And growing evidence suggests many of us could already have cross-reactive cellular immunity to the “novel” coronavirus.
Antibodies are just one part of the immune response, and according to a new article published in The BMJ evidence is growing that many of us already have cross-reactive cellular immunity to the “novel” coronavirus.
According to the BMJ feature, at least 6 past studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.
“Memory T cells are known for their ability to affect the clinical severity and susceptibility to future infection,” authors write. “T cell studies documenting pre-existing reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 in 20-50% of people suggest that antibodies are not the full story.”
If coronavirus re-infection were likely to drive a massive wave of re-infection, it’s already doubtful relevant cases would be such sparse outliers tracked down 9 months into the coronavirus pandemic. However, as recent headlines suggest, the human antibody response to SARS-CoV-2 can wane. And to some, this is cause for alarm.
Luckily, antibody response is only one aspect of the total immune reaction of the body. SARS-CoV-1 reactive T cells, for example, were found in SARS patients 17 years after infection
Investigators behind the feature in BMJ pointed to several important pieces of evidence that there is an important cellular response to COVID-19.
more at link
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/emerging-data-support-lasting-covid19-immunity-t-cells
Emerging Data Support Lasting COVID-19 Immunity Via T Cells
September 18, 2020
Grant M. Gallagher
Antibodies are just one part of the body's immune response. And growing evidence suggests many of us could already have cross-reactive cellular immunity to the “novel” coronavirus.
Antibodies are just one part of the immune response, and according to a new article published in The BMJ evidence is growing that many of us already have cross-reactive cellular immunity to the “novel” coronavirus.
According to the BMJ feature, at least 6 past studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.
“Memory T cells are known for their ability to affect the clinical severity and susceptibility to future infection,” authors write. “T cell studies documenting pre-existing reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 in 20-50% of people suggest that antibodies are not the full story.”
If coronavirus re-infection were likely to drive a massive wave of re-infection, it’s already doubtful relevant cases would be such sparse outliers tracked down 9 months into the coronavirus pandemic. However, as recent headlines suggest, the human antibody response to SARS-CoV-2 can wane. And to some, this is cause for alarm.
Luckily, antibody response is only one aspect of the total immune reaction of the body. SARS-CoV-1 reactive T cells, for example, were found in SARS patients 17 years after infection
Investigators behind the feature in BMJ pointed to several important pieces of evidence that there is an important cellular response to COVID-19.
more at link
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/emerging-data-support-lasting-covid19-immunity-t-cells
Your T-Call immunity claims are nonsense. As carefully explained before - T-Cell "immunity" may allow you to get less of a severe case of COVID -- but it is not anti-body immunity -- nor does T-Cell "immunity" make you immune to COVID in any manner. In fact T-Cell "immunity" may actually increase the spread of COVID because the person may have minimal symptoms and go out and spread COVID to others.
Information on re-infections -- with documented cases occurring everyday are being found all over the globe -- and yes, re-infection case volumes are exploding because we are right on the cusp of waning immunity from the previous large infection peaks across the globe.
At least we all seem to agree people can get immunity from this virus now.
That was a massive struggle with some of these dopey Covid fear pushers on this site and in the media.
This means implicitly if not explicitly Stahl and CBS acknowledge someone who had Covid in would still be immune and not spread Covid.
These lefties have come a long way... right in front of the election... huh.
No retard. It wears off, results may vary.
Douchebag...I said it varies above. That was my argument...No retard. It wears off, results may vary.
You think too much of yourself. No one else would even fire the neurons for a douche hiding from the tax man in Colombia. You are a tax evading leftist douche like your countryman bono. Only you also hide from colombia. By the way idiot...it had nothing to do with your statement...she had her mask off in the picture.
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