COVID-19 mRNA Vax and Immune System Disorders

kmiklas

kmiklas

The big cover-up is the risk for immune system disorders.

Traditional vaccines work by exposing the patient to a weakened version of a virus; e.g., the Salk vaccine for polio was dropped into a sugar cube, and ingested. In response, the body creates messenger RNA, or mRNA, which specifies how the immune system should fight the virus, and antibodies are created. This gives the body a "head start" on the virus, so when encountered full-strength in the wild, the body already knows how to fight it off.

mRNA vaccines skip the first step: the messengers are fabricated and injected. This, in theory, causes identical creation of the antibodies.

The risk here is that the vaccine will foul up the immune system. Disorders thereof fall into two categories: where the immune system is overactive, "Autoimmune Disorders," and underactive, "Immunodeficiency." Examples of the former are Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis, and a form of Diabetes; the latter: vulnerability to a litany of illnesses, including pneumonia, bronchitis, and infections.

This year is basically one big clinical trial: will those who got the vax get an immune system disorder? To what extent? It's unknown; roll the dice. :confused:

Why isn't the news talking about this? Why don't we see this on CNN? Why isn't this risk identified on the CDC? Why is the public not informed of this risk? If I posted this on FB, Twitter, etc. it would be censored and removed immediately. These censorship efforts are really starting to chafe. ET to the rescue, with this forum for free speech. :thumbsup:

References:
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/autoimmune-diseases
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/primary-immunodeficiency/symptoms-causes/syc-20376905
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
 
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gwb-trading said:
All we learned from this post is that you can copy & paste nonsense from anti-vaxxer sites.
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Wrong on three points:
1. Not nonsense: a well-structured argument
2. Not anti-vax: it's critical thinking and risk assessment
3. I wrote it myself.
 
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kmiklas said:
.....Why isn't the news talking about this? Why don't we see this on CNN? Why isn't this risk identified on the CDC? Why is the public not informed of this risk? If I posted this on FB, Twitter, etc. it would be censored and removed immediately. These censorship efforts are really starting to chafe. ET to the rescue, with this forum for free speech. :thumbsup:

References:
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/autoimmune-diseases
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/primary-immunodeficiency/symptoms-causes/syc-20376905
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
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I saw it once reference on CNBC via the CDC website when they were talking about common side effects with some doctor whose name I can not remember.

I think too many people are lazy and want hand holding all the way to getting the needle stuck in their arm. Heck, there are studies about people who have adverse reactions from simply getting stuck in the arm with a needle (e.g. anxiety, stress disorders, sweating, dry mouth, fainting, heart palpitations, heart attacks).

Anyways, back to CNBC...when they mention the adverse side effects without too many details as they did the common side effects...they mention the following link that I read and it correlated with my other sources including results from studies.
People need to sit down a do their own benefits versus risk assessments via comparing the worst-case scenarios of what can happen if they get Covid versus the worst-case scenarios of what can happen if they get Vaccinated.

They also need to look at possible Covid long-hauler illnesses of those not vaccinated versus Covid illness if someone that's vaccinated and has a breakthrough infection...not enough data but those vaccinated are having milder illnesses as in non-life-threatening if they have a breakthrough Covid infection. There should be more data by end of the year...

Another reason the latter above is why many are still undecided as in they have the wait and see approach (watching others go first).

The above is not the real problem. The problem, many people now are being careless while not vaccinated...they're not doing any hand washing, not social distancing, not wearing a face mask, going into large in-door crowds...
  • Forcing many businesses, employers, schools, universities to make decisions for those that are careless and wanting to use those resources / services.
Hey, I'm now cold-blooded after a lot of Covid misinformation for over a year. Fuck those that are not vaccinated except those that have immune system problems and children.

4 1/2 years ago, I myself had heart failure (my heart actually stopped...twice in a 24-hour duration) when I was in a coma from sepsis pneumonia. Heart failure was caused via an allergic response to an ingredient in the medical treatment (not vaccine) to prevent septic shock.
  • I'm all good today but my doctor and I had to do our research to know which Covid vaccines to avoid and which ones were suitable for me. My point, I'm now fully vaccinated against Covid and I did not take my vaccine blindly.
In addition, I had my Prevnar vaccination late last year because I had delayed getting that vaccination in 2016 resulting in me getting infected with Pneumonia while in a region of France that had an outbreak of Pneumonia that I was not aware of until the day I started coughing. A few days later I had a fever but no more coughing. Decided to get a check-up at the local hospital...I fainted in the hospital lobby.

Woke up, out of a coma almost two months later in another country...surrounded by people speaking two languages I didn't understand along with me thinking I was back in college in another country.
  • Yeah, I had brain fog big time.
Had I had the Prevnar vaccination...I still may have had a breakthrough infection but the probabilities were high that I would not have fainted nor lapsed into a coma.
  • I didn't want to go through that shit again and play hindsight quarterbacking with a Delta Variant surrounding us like pissed-off piranhas attacking our immune system.
Had there not been a Delta Variant...I may be one of those that would say...I will wait and see about the vaccine after seeing others get vaccinated that live on my street even though I have the background to understand how dangerous life can be for those not vaccinated.

Here's a short video of me after my Covid vaccination (gotta find the humor in all of this Covid crap)...:D

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