COVID-19: I’m Treating Too Many Young People for the Coronavirus

[luisHK]

Yes, they will ask you for a receipt (the Police that is) when they stop your car full of shopping bags. And they will ask for a document proof that the dog you are walking is yours. Spaniards are outgoing people in a lot of senses and are creative in order to find an excuse for a fresh air activity outside.

Potential for new Baby Boom is right there!

No baby boom whatsoever in Italy after a long lockdown, the country already in dire need of babie had expected less births this year than the previous year before the coronavirus came into play, but read yesterday the government had to lower the number of birth estimate for this year around 7% after surveying people during the crisis.
Health markers have worsened as well, population has put on an average of 2kgs during quarantine, according to the survey, been way kess active, indulged in more comfort food and booze.

 

[Turveyd]

No baby boom whatsoever in Italy after a long lockdown, the country already in dire need of babie had expected less births this year than the previous year before the coronavirus came into play, but read yesterday the government had to lower the number of birth estimate for this year around 7% after surveying people during the crisis.
Health markers have worsened as well, population has put on an average of 2kgs during quarantine, according to the survey, been way kess active, indulged in more comfort food and booze.

Been riding bike a lot, but not the same as bike + gym + swim with less food, expecting 4kgs gained here and a lot of muscle lost, no climbing for me this year, too weak

 

[Actuarial_Fun]

How surprising....a western medical doctor spewing fear and ignorance without any facts to back him up whatsoever. They should lose their license for their ignorance, but they never do. I just choose to make healthy decisions so I don't need to get near their ignorance.

Why is it that doctors don't understand sample size? Why is it that doctor's don't understand statistics in any way whatsoever? What pharmaceutical company bought this doctor off or what pharmaceutical company did he blindly follow as western doctors can't do any thinking of themselves, to spew such nonsense and fear mongering? I'm sure there's some horrible drug coming with horrible side effects (like all of the beautiful statins that were useless), that will be pushed onto the masses and they will gobble it up in their fear. "I can't wait to have a vaccine" they say....god help us (sigh).

Tell me....what is the mortality rate for someone who is 18 and gets the coronavirus? What is the mortality rate in this country for cancer, heart disease, car accidents, etc.? When is the last time you were scared while driving....3000 people die a day internationally from car accidents. Cancer and heart disease is mostly preventable by a plant based vegan diet, but nobody is pushing that. Most doctors couldn't provide 2 benefits of cauliflower to you. About 1.5M in the US die from heart disease and cancer a year. Our system is an utter mess and western doctors contribute to the ignorance and fear mongering. We would be much better off with everyone eating vegan plant based and then keep the emergency rooms, etc., as this is something the westerns do very well.

At the end of the day, I know nobody wants to hear this....but you will die. Everyone will die. It's a fact. We are such a psychological and spiritually ignorant young society, that nobody even begins to look at the mass hysteria of fear that has come from this stupid thing. Process your fear of death (yes, it is fully possible) and maybe you will begin to see clearly. Look at the tradeoffs from this fear....loss of liberty, economy horrible (but not the people that matter thankfully, only the lower and middle class (rolls eyes)), fear and stress throughout your body, which leads you vulnerable to real illness. Even the western medicals have proved that you need stress before heart disease can actually happen....interesting, they are now learning the basics of how the body works. Now, we just need drugs to artificially lower stress and give people the illusion that stress has actually left the body....Oh wait....we have those! Ugh...

The actual mortality rate of someone who is 18 is so ridiculous low that this man is a complete and utter idiot. Fear, fear, fear....the holocaust was not caused by Hitler it was caused by all of the crazy followers who didn't have the courage to move through their fears and think for themselves. Hitler would have never received power if the collective consciousness didn't call him in.

Don't be followers....please experience your fears, take responsibility for your feelings, and really look at the information being thrown at us. The western doctors aren't the problem, its all of the fearful people that follow the ignorance, without thinking for themselves. That's us.

 

[ironchef]

Here in OC, California, 50% of the cases but 82% of death are people over 55. If you are over 75, it is essentially a death sentence.

20 something are 18% of the cases and 3% of the death. The death rate for them is 0.3% or about the same as flu. The young and restless realize that and with encouragement from Trump are protesting profusely and defying the lockdown everywhere in OC. So cases and death are actually increasing now after stabilizing in April.

 

[luisHK]

If you are over 75, it is essentially a death sentence.
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That s a huge overstatement, mortality in the 70 to 79 y range 4.8 to 12.8% in the countries listed above, might well be less considering the unreported cases ( many countries also suspect unreported deaths for the ederly. Also in Spain anyone dying while testing positive to coronavirus is considered a coronavirus victim, read that in nursing homes no testing was required, just suspicious symptoms. it s not like the old people ever used to die before the virus came about...)

 

[Turveyd]

Here in OC, California, 50% of the cases but 82% of death are people over 55. If you are over 75, it is essentially a death sentence.

20 something are 18% of the cases and 3% of the death. The death rate for them is 0.3% or about the same as flu. The young and restless realize that and with encouragement from Trump are protesting profusely and defying the lockdown everywhere in OC. So cases and death are actually increasing now after stabilizing in April.

Nah 1 in 40 over 85, your just only hearing about the 1 that dies not the 39 that lived.

Between 75 and 84 looking at 1 in 300 dying.

 

[Turveyd]

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That s a huge overstatement, mortality in the 70 to 79 y range 4.8 to 12% in the countries listed below, might well be less considering the unreported cases ( many countries also suspect ubreported deaths as well for the ederly(. Also in Spain anyone dying while testing positive to coronavirus is considered a coronavirus victim, it s not like the old people ever uswd to to die before the virus came about...)

That's none PC, nobody has ever died ever, before C19, that's why it's so scarey, someone died man!!

Wonder if they realise, if people didn't die, it would be over crowded and loads of 1000year olds to look after, we live and we die, the dying is supposed to make the living worth while, not so scared that you fail at living.

 

[luisHK]

Here in OC, California, 50% of the cases but 82% of death are people over 55. If you are over 75, it is essentially a death sentence.

20 something are 18% of the cases and 3% of the death. The death rate for them is 0.3% or about the same as flu. The young and restless realize that and with encouragement from Trump are protesting profusely and defying the lockdown everywhere in OC. So cases and death are actually increasing now after stabilizing in April.

You are also overstating the death rate of the 20 something, and probably by a factor of 10+ if considering unreported cases among young people

 

[ironchef]

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That s a huge overstatement, mortality in the 70 to 79 y range 4.8 to 12.8% in the countries listed above, might well be less considering the unreported cases ( many countries also suspect unreported deaths for the ederly. Also in Spain anyone dying while testing positive to coronavirus is considered a coronavirus victim, read that in nursing homes no testing was required, just suspicious symptoms. it s not like the old people ever used to die before the virus came about...)

Nah 1 in 40 over 85, your just only hearing about the 1 that dies not the 39 that lived.

Between 75 and 84 looking at 1 in 300 dying.

You are also overstating the death rate of the 20 something, and probably by a factor of 10+ if considering unreported cases among young people

I realized my mistake regarding the over 75. I stand corrected.

 

[luisHK]

That s a huge overstatement, mortality in the 70 to 79 y range 4.8 to 12.8% in the countries listed above, might well be less considering the unreported cases ( many countries also suspect unreported deaths for the ederly. Also in Spain anyone dying while testing positive to coronavirus is considered a coronavirus victim, read that in nursing homes no testing was required, just suspicious symptoms. it s not like the old people ever used to die before the virus came about...)

Another link I found yesterday also gave the moratality of 90y+, strangely it came out lower that for the 80-89y o, but that might be in a specific country only.
Yet today in Spain came out the news below, not funny but a good news anyway:

The oldest woman in Spain, aged 113, survived the coronavirus :

19:56 LA ANCIANA MÁS LONGEVA DE ESPAÑA, DE 113 AÑOS, SUPERA EL CORONAVIRUS
La mujer más longeva de España, de 113 años, según la asociación Gerontology Research Group, María Branyas, también es a partir de ahora la persona de más edad en superar el coronavirus, después de hacerlo en la residencia en la que vive, en Olot (Girona).

María, hija de una barcelonesa y un periodista natural de Pamplona que fue responsable de la revista americana Mercurio, nació el 4 de marzo de 1907 en San Francisco (Estados Unidos), adonde su padre había ido por trabajo después de pasar una temporada en México.

Tras un largo periplo por Nueva Orleans y por las localidades catalanas de Barcelona, Banyoles, Girona, Calonge i Sant Antoni y Palol de Revardit, desde hace unas dos décadas vive en la Residencia Santa María del Tura de Olot, donde tenía una amiga y prima de su marido.

Este centro, como sucede en muchos de su ámbito en toda España, ha sufrido la crueldad y letalidad del coronavirus con diferentes defunciones confirmadas por la COVID-19 o sospechosas de serlo, informa Efe.

https://www.elmundo.es/ciencia-y-salud/salud/2020/05/11/5eb8df64fdddff7e9c8b462e.html