COVID-19 and Protests

1. Nine morons has been pretty much wishing the virus on me ... I was not really addressing the issue of whether I would then be infecting others if and when I contract Covid.

2. However there are at least 2 models for this.

In the superspreader and cluster model...(the one I think may turn out to be closer to reality)
80 (read larger portion) percent of the spread is done my very few super spreaders...
The rest of the spreaders would be spreading the virus to one person or less.

In that model.. you would think people with healthy immune systems and asymptomatic people would most likely not be the super spreaders on average.

I think that model will turn out to be correct for this virus.

However, it is possible we everyone sheds virus equally in the same quantity and potency. However, given the way this virus spread in clusters... that would turn out to be odd... I think.


3. Also there is a June 5th written WHO circular which states masks are not needed unless you are working with sick people and it says in writing that while it is difficult to get good data on this... there is data from member states which indicates asymptomatic people rarely spread.

I know the oral statement was "walked back" but there is still the written statement paper from June 5th.

So it is quite possible those with healthy immune systems are less likely to spread the virus than those say with pre existing immune system issues and pneumonia.


Overnight said:
The only way you will know you are not spreading it to other people is if you get an accurate positive antibody test.

Otherwise, your super healthy immune system will help spread it to other people, because you won't have symptoms. It's like HPV.
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jem said:
In short you are no more than one post deep on 90 percent of your thoughts.
You attack posters out of the blue out on this thread and you don't even realize what a mushroom you are.

You are the perfect example of a lefty suffering from Dunning Kruger effect.


I can think of 2 subject you were wrong... of the top of my head.


1. Low carb eating... you were wrong as hell... everyone body is different especially when you consider that reaction to carbs and sugar.

2. The Federal reserve and economics... you don't even understand the argument.
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Buddy, I can't take you seriously, your theories on so many topics are so off the wall and impractical. You don't even seem to know how crazy some of your ideas really are. Maybe take note how almost none of them occur in reality and ask yourself why.
 
Overnight said:
The only way you will know you are not spreading it to other people is if you get an accurate positive antibody test.

Otherwise, your super healthy immune system will help spread it to other people, because you won't have symptoms. It's like HPV.
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Would it surprise you at all if "Jem" got the virus suffered a serious medical event as a result and only then shut the fuck up about all his idiotic theories on this virus ? From his posting history he doesn't have a super healthy immune system there is a 99.9% chance I've got a better one them him and I'm not daring the virus to take me down.
 
I hope you do have a better immune system. I would never wish an illness on anybody. Even non thinking party line followers.



Nine_Ender said:
Would it surprise you at all if "Jem" got the virus suffered a serious medical event as a result and only then shut the fuck up about all his idiotic theories on this virus ? From his posting history he doesn't have a super healthy immune system there is a 99.9% chance I've got a better one them him and I'm not daring the virus to take me down.
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gwb-trading said:
Enjoy the double standard.... stay for the hypocrisy...

NBC, CNN, NY Times Seek to Stop Trump Rally Based on Covid Concerns — After Supporting Weeks of Nationwide Protests
https://www.mediaite.com/news/nbc-c...fter-supporting-weeks-of-nationwide-protests/
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but protesters are wearing masks & Donnie wants no masks nor social distancing? One's a protected right, the other's a private jerk fest? I honestly don't care, the less Trump voters the better, it's a long time 'til November
 
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Now all the COVID-19 infections from protests are showing up. We are seeing article after article across our state about public health notifications from the protests.

Coronavirus in the Carolinas: Rally attendee in uptown tests positive for COVID-19
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/c...s-doctors-offices/3AMPB7JGOVGIVJFEYKLZ3TDLGQ/

Someone who attended a rally June 5 organized by a group of black attorneys in uptown has tested positive for COVID-19, according to the John S. Leary Bar.

Everyone who participated in the rally is encouraged to get tested for the virus.

Dozens of people attended the event to call for changes at the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department and the criminal justice system in the Queen City.

An organizer said the day when the officer knelt on George Floyd’s neck is symbolic of ongoing systemic racism.

“This whole history of this country has been about the knee of the necks of black people ever since,” attorney James Ferguson said.

Statement from John S. Leary Bar:

“The John S. Leary Bar was informed today that someone who attended our Rally on June 5, 2020 tested positive for COVID-19. Out of an abundance of caution, we sought guidance from the Mecklenburg County Health Department regarding this issue.

"According to the recommendations from the Mecklenburg County Health Department, anyone who has attended a mass gathering, including protests are recommended to take the test for COVID-19. Additionally, it is also recommended that if you believe you may have been exposed to someone with COVID-19, you should self-quarantine for 14 days from the date of exposure. In our particular instance, if you want to be cautious, you should self-quarantine until June 19, 2020.

"These are recommendations and not requirements. For further information and guidance, you may contact the Mecklenburg County Health Department at (980) 314-9400.”
 
Houston Protesters Begin to Fall Ill With Coronavirus After Marching for George Floyd
https://www.newsweek.com/houston-pr...ronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

Houston resident Shamone Turner told KRIV that she took part in a march to Houston City Hall attended by an estimated 60,000 people about two weeks ago and later tested positive for the virus. Several friends who accompanied her were also said to have tested positive. Despite the illness, she said she has no regrets about her decision to march.

"I actually got sick the day after the march... I could not move out of the bed. I was in the bed just sighing," Turner said. "I definitely don't regret getting the COVID, because I was out there doing the right thing for the right cause."

The extent to which the new cases may be tied to protests is unclear. Although it is likely some cases were contracted during protests, the virus is believed to have an incubation period of between 2 and 14 days, while reporting delays could also make it difficult to determine when and where people contracted the disease.

Houston police reported an uptick in cases after the protests began, with at least 23 officers testing positive since June 6, according to The Houston Chronicle.

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner on Monday urged residents to wear face masks, practice good hygiene and maintain social distancing to help slow the rate of new infections. He also said that people who had gathered closely in public should get tested for the virus, including those who attended the protests.

"[I am] encouraging people who have been out in the general public... participated in marches, demonstrations, protests... go and be tested," the mayor said during Monday press briefing. "Numbers continue to go up every day."

The mayor has personally participated in the demonstrations, including the large march to city hall. He decided to get tested for the virus on Saturday due to taking part in the march, testing negative for a second time since the pandemic began. However, Turner does not believe that the new cases should be blamed solely on the demonstrations.

"The state's governor started aggressively reopening businesses prior to the march and people packed into restaurants, bars, pool parties and other events despite the occupancy limits and with little to no social distancing or the use of face masks," Mary Benton, the mayor's communications director, told Newsweek in a statement.

"Mayor Turner has consistently encouraged people to practice the recommended social distancing, good hygiene and the wearing of face masks," she added. "Because he marched, went to the memorial and funeral, Mayor Turner took his second COVID-19 test which was negative and encourages everyone to get tested."

From May 30 to June 2, the first weekend of the protests, 167 people were reportedly arrested while taking part in demonstrations across Texas. Arrest reports suggest that a majority of those arrested were in their teens or 20s, according to Houston Public Media.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott on Monday singled out young people as one group that could be helping drive a statewide increase in new cases. He suggested that many younger people were gathering while failing to maintain adequate preventative measures, without directly connecting new cases among the group to those attending the protests.

"[We are seeing] an increase in young people testing positive, in particular people in the age 20 to 29 age group," Abbott told KRIS on Monday. "That age group is the age group that is going to bars a whole lot more."
 
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