Quote from jsp326:
Don't waste your time. Regardless of the credentials he claims to have, he has no real concept of what to expect from backtesting, optimization, walk-forward testing, performance metrics, etc. As I said, instead of focusing on real, quantifiable, edge-producing strategies (i.e,. hard work), he buys into Hersheynomics, astro-price-physics and other garbage from would-be gurus at ET. No serious CTA would waste their time on that stuff.
Hershey's only attempt at real-time trading was in a contest here in 2002 when he quickly lost 26% and ran away like a scared child. Proflogic has never subjected his "systems" to a third-party, real-time auditing service. You'd probably have better success buying $97 systems in an old TradeWins catalog than following local "gurus" on here.
Prof Logic is a multi-millionaire. Hershey is a mad man with one system. There is no comparison between the two. One is sane and rational, and the other is just bonkers, and you know which one is which.
No serious CTA wastes time developing their models? You're off your rocker. I use a state of the art platform and portfolio simulator for easy language to make my strategies. Multicharts will beat anyone's system and gives them the best chance of executing it at minimal cost.
Since you know nothing about the validity of Prof's model, I'll just say Jack Hershey's is only for S&P Index futures and very limited. Given all the information and sleight of hand and just banter, it should be a relief to have a version that actually shows a profit, and this is a major accomplishment for anybody researching that system.
Prof Logic has a 100+ page book called <u>Price Physics</u>. If you're not a novice, you can learn how to trade from it, any market, in any interval. There's nothing that makes that a waste of time, and incidentally you really have no idea what you're saying when you ask whether a CTA would look into such ideas for trading strategies. Of course you would. You look into it refining your methods like everyone else out there.
I'm not doing anything different using my models than someone who takes 40% draw and only makes 10% annually. Also, if there's no performance summaries then there's no model. Many managers just try to make trades as soon as possible, but if they are doing their research there isn't any better platform than Multicharts. If you have a profitable strategy, using wl4.wealth-lab.com for EOD signal generation is also fine.
You're confusing what "works" and what "doesn't work." The line is pretty cut and dry once you have the statistics in your hands. There isn't any other way to conduct research or develop trading strategies. You're dilluded if you think that every CTA doesn't do that because they all do. I have models that are very robust; just because one happens to come from a multi-millionaire who's a little eccentric online like everyone else who posts is doesn't mean that the theory isn't valid. Quite the contrary, I think what he has is ingenious, but if you keep mixing up what Jack Hershey's method is, versus what Prof Logic's method is, there is zero compairson. There's nothing to say for scale, and there's nothing to say for performance. Prof wins hands down no contest.
When it comes to my pairs model the most recent changes were implemented on the last trade, turning a 1.3% profit versus the old model's 5% loss, which is a big difference. There is nothing to learn from other CTA's because they don't have a theory as well articulated as price physics, and if you want to learn how to trade Prof really is the man to go see.
My pairs models are limited to indexes or ETF's that have double or triple leveraged instruments that you can form a ratio from. There's tens of these kinds of ETF's and as long as you optimize on them they will return a profitable model from the same template of code with parameters set to where they best fit the data. There isn't anything wrong with optimizing that way because if the theory simply requires optimization, the method is sound.
I don't know what else you think other CTA's are going to tell you about their methods that I didn't learn from Price Physics or from my experiences pairs trading. Sell when everyone's buying and buy when everyone's selling. Your model has to do that, and if you're not doing that, let's say you play momentum the way Jack Hershey's method does then there's plenty of ways to develop strategies from theories that are already out there.