Could bitcoin become the next Swiss bank account?

I wonder how regulators are even going to cope? They'll have to ban private coins, but it will do as much as banning online piracy, though at that point... What do you trade for it in the "legal" world?

It looks like regulation won't be as big an issue as people think. ChainBLX are facilitating trades directly from cryptos into mainstream stocks.. and back again. They are shouting it from the rooftops so it all looks legit:
http://community.chainblx.com/t/what-will-you-be-using/223

I just wonder if or how it can tie into Monero
 
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I get that it's easy to lose perspective when you're around a bunch of smart, tech savvy people all the time. The reality of the world, however, is that 98% of the population isn't smart or tech savvy. A shockingly large number of people in the U.S. still write checks to pay for things and don't really know how to use basic stuff like email. Cryptocurrency is a niche thing used by a tiny fraction of a percent of the world's population. There is no benefit to 99% of the world's population to switch that will be readily apparent to them, and switching cost is relatively high given the level of technical savvy of the majority of the world's population. So no, the world is never going to switch to using cryptocurrency, just not realistic.
Yeah... The same thing was said of each and every innovation this world has ever had before it boomed... :rolleyes:

And now, my 90-year-old grandmother freaks out when her WhatsApp stops working for some reason, because she is on the damn thing the whole day... Not to mention that she calls Uber on her iphone to take her to the hairdresser.

The world doesn't have to be smart to use something. It is up to the producers/providers to make things accessible to their costumers, that's how they make money... :) Because of that, today a 90-year-old lady can use Uber and WhatsApp...
But this is just the start...

As I said: time will tell.:)
 
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The only negative about Monero being a surrogate Swiss Bank is, as pointed out by @schweiz seems to be the potentially large fluctuation in value that Monero could go through on exchanges and I agree that doesn't make it an ideal candidate as a storage of value. And the cause of that is because Monero is traded. So what if we restrict the trading of Monero somehow perhaps in terms of volume, would that help in stabilizing the value of Monero? What do you guys think?

The problem is you won't be able to restrict its trading and the gov't won't be able to do anything because the currency is completely anonymous, and as long as you won't be able to restrict trading, it's going to be terrible as storage of value is concerned. Its anonymity is in conflict with the objective of being a storage of value; you won't be able to achieve both.

The only thing that can be done to ensure its stability of value is if you have a group of volunteer "financiers" who have large holding of moneros who would have to buy/sell monero out of their own pocket everyday across all exchanges to maintain its value at a more fixed price and in turn they get rewarded by the profit they make in their buy/sell. The only other problem is monero has unlimited supply so the buying/selling won't work to stabilize its value.

What we do need is a monero that has a capped max. limit and with volunteer "financiers" who buy/sell to maintain a more stable value. That would be close to a proxy to swiss bank, completely anonymous and yet stable.
 
The tendency for cryptos to become easier and easier to use, making it increasingly wide spread(and more stabel) will make a ban on them just as effective as the drug ban. The difference is that people willing to use currency is effectively EVERYONE, unlike the number of people who want to use drugs, but despite that, anyone who wants access to drugs, has it. Given that, the failure in enforcing the ban on cryptos will be even more pathetic.
A ban would initially be actually in effect in large established business, but as the market is always reinventing itself, new, smaller, non-regulated business that deal with cryptos(despite the ban) would gradually and increasingly gain competitiveness. This is in fact another benefit of cryptos, they would serve as a way to get around stupid and protectionist regulations that only benefit the already established business. And again, an effect such as this will be so widepread, that enforcing regulations would be impossible.
In face of this, regulators will be forced to do what they did with uber: bend over and back off.
This is what in the end will force the bigger companies to join in: the need to stay competitive.

These changes won't happen overnight, but at least they will be the way it is supposed to be in a descentralized/free market: from the bottom to the upper part of the economy, because if it is the other way around, things would only get worse.
In a nutshell, once the control freaks lose their ability to control(which was guaranteed essentialy through the monopoly of money), their incompetence will be their death sentence.:)

I very much prefer for bitcoin not to be banned.

It is very easy to eat at restaurants, pay for hotel rooms or plane tickets, purchase coffee, groceries, computer and electronics items, clothes, shoes, and a slew of other stuff using bitcoin through the use of a payment processor (i.e. Bitpay, Coinbase or Coinpayment).
 
I very much prefer for bitcoin not to be banned.
Me too... But bans and regulation is the only thing that government officials with their peanut brains know to do... And when they see that their power is threatened(as we see it now by their reaction to cryptos), they naturally react. If they lose their power, they will actually have to work and do something useful... But that, for them, is a death sentence.:D

So we can surely expect more attempts at regulation and bans.
 
Me too... But bans and regulation is the only thing that government officials with their peanut brains know to do... And when they see that their power is threatened(as we see it now by their reaction to cryptos), they naturally react. If they lose their power, they will actually have to work and do something useful... But that, for them, is a death sentence.:D

So we can surely expect more attempts at regulation and bans.

Regulations are fine. In fact, they help to legitimize bitcoin and will prevent a USG ban. This will help to increase the value of bitcoin many folds and could compete with Gold as a store of value/investment vehicle.

Gold's valuation is $9 Trillion and bitcoin is at $150 Billion. In my opinion, one of the biggest reasons for such a huge valuation gap is legal uncertainty in the US.
 
Me too... But bans and regulation is the only thing that government officials with their peanut brains know to do... And when they see that their power is threatened(as we see it now by their reaction to cryptos), they naturally react. If they lose their power, they will actually have to work and do something useful... But that, for them, is a death sentence.:D

So we can surely expect more attempts at regulation and bans.
Says the 21 year old who's never run anything let alone has any experience with the complexity of government. There are a bunch of people I knew in government who have gone on to start successful companies and non-profits that have done significant good in the world, which would imply a bit more than "peanut brains". What have you accomplished there Mr. "waa, you're personally attacking me", to give you the right to slander? If you're going to call everyone in government a "peanut brain", you're going to have to back that up, which you can't do given the fact that you know fuck all about it.
 
Regulations are fine. In fact, they help to legitimize bitcoin and will prevent a USG ban. This will help to increase the value of bitcoin many folds and could compete with Gold as a store of value/investment vehicle.

Gold's valuation is $9 Trillion and bitcoin is at $150 Billion. In my opinion, one of the biggest reasons for such a huge valuation gap is legal uncertainty in the US.
Well, I beg to differ. What legitimizes something is not government regulation, but people's concept of what is valueable.
Drugs are overpriced because government criminalize them and people still want it. The result: less competition on the producer/seller side = higher prices.
Gold was, during decades, illegal for citizens in the U.S. Do you think that that made it less valuable?:)
Cryptos are still a new concept, it isn't yet widespread as it can be, but as I pointed out, there is enourmous incentive for people to make access and dealing with cryptos easier... In time, this will happen and with that, when people realize it is a way to get paid or pay and avoid government bullshit(which means cheaper products and services), the outcome is inevitable. As I said many times, Uber is the shiniest example of this: you cut government BS = much better prices and service.:)
 
Regulations are fine. In fact, they help to legitimize bitcoin and will prevent a USG ban. This will help to increase the value of bitcoin many folds and could compete with Gold as a store of value/investment vehicle.

Gold's valuation is $9 Trillion and bitcoin is at $150 Billion. In my opinion, one of the biggest reasons for such a huge valuation gap is legal uncertainty in the US.
On the other side of my last post... Firearms are legitimized by the United States Constitution. Despite that, you see constant attempts to ban guns... Over and over again... So "legitimizing" in the way you mean will mean nothing.
To me, legitimate is something of value in a free market.:)
 
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