CORRELATION EminiS&P-Russel2000

On an absolute basis you have the idea, however to do this right you still have to account for differences in volatility. Compare the average true range of the two instruments. Check out the position siziing algorithm discussed in Acrary's posts. If you account for volatility differences you are probably in the right ballpark as to balancing the ES/ER spread. Lefty
 
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On an absolute basis you have the idea, however to do this right you still have to account for differences in volatility. Compare the average true range of the two instruments. Check out the position siziing algorithm discussed in Acrary's posts. If you account for volatility differences you are probably in the right ballpark as to balancing the ES/ER spread. Lefty

All that work for "Zero" consistency. Rock On!
 
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Absurd... but funny

Before you downgrade my comment as just "funny" look at the following chart that has es and er2 adjusted by the value of their contracts, implied volatility and the point value. Do they look correlated to you? (Blue is es and green is er2)
 

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Yeah, and so would the NDX or INDU, for example... it's not an arbitrage.

Would you be so kind and post your definition of "arbitrage" please. May be I'm using the wrong term here.
 
The [riskless] purchase and sale of two fungible securities... buying COMEX gold/selling LME. Option arbitrage: buying synthetic stock/shorting stock(reversal).
 
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The [riskless] purchase and sale of two fungible securities... buying COMEX gold/selling LME. Option arbitrage: buying synthetic stock/shorting stock(reversal).

Thank you. That is what I thought. So, buying an adjusted value of es and selling a symmetrically adjusted value of er2 could be considered as arbitrage? Would you agree? Or I'm still missing something?
 
just joined this board. interesting because i know someone that blew out from trading the russell agaist the spu. he was a big shooter too. sad but true. i understand that you may use the relationship as a trading vehicle but that's all it is. its noise trading at best. but if you have the discipline to handle the loose correlation that's great.

just don't believe it too much that you blow out. not worth it
 
abogdan, riskarb

dont waste time. its just a word. sure it is not true arb. some kind of stat arb it is for sure ... in the end the question is if it works.

abogdan, what is your sharpe ratio expectation on this system? above 1.5? i guess so given the mentioned trading frequency.

peace
 
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