Correction... 2015 was not the warmest year

[futurecurrents]

I must say, I love this forum if only because I can

you pre fascist big govt troll.

1. My chart illustrates that sea level has been rising since the last ice age. Does it not?
How therefore can you claim man made co2 is causing the rise? that is the point you fricken troll. You can't show sea level rise outside natural variation. for you not to be a troll liar here... you would have to produce science showing man made co2 is causing sea level rise beyond natural variation.

Go for it you low integrity pre fascist drone. Produce the science.... showing man made co2 is causing sea level rise.

2. You fricken troll you know damn well that change in ocean temps precede change in co2 levels. I have produced the charts and studies here many times. Every study shows it and no scientist denies it that we have found. At best the nutters say once temperatures start increasing co2 amplifies the warming... but that is unproven theory.

So there is almost no way given today's scientific understanding you can show the lagging variable is causing the leading variable.

You have no integrity, fc.

3. I see you are now referencing satellites. Do these satellites work as well as yardsticks while the other satellites deployed by the same groups do not work as well as the thermometers over land? you fricken troll.

4. note... you have the right to an opinion... but it is highly disgusting that you call us... the ones showing the science the lairs. if you keep calling us the liars... you are going to turn yourself into a sick demented old man. you can't be that twisted for long.

Just stop. It's not even amusing anymore. It's starting to seem like listening to a raving lunatic. Not sure I can blame an insane person for lying.

 

[wildchild]

I must say, I love this forum if only because I can



Just stop. It's not even amusing anymore. It's starting to seem like listening to a raving lunatic. Not sure I can blame an insane person for lying.

 

[piezoe]

FC, I found this interesting. Care to comment with some of your "brilliant" insight?
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"...A main question is to what extent the volcanism changes over time. The old idea was that the eruptions of oozing lava and related activity occurred at fairly steady rates. Now, studies hint at the existence of outbursts large enough to influence not only the character of the global sea but the planet’s temperature.


Continue reading the main story
Experts believe the activity may carry major repercussions because the oceanic ridges account for some 70 percent of the planet’s volcanic eruptions. By definition, that makes them enormous sources of heat and exotic minerals as well as such everyday gases as carbon dioxide, which all volcanoes emit. ..."

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/s...=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

 

[jem]

these virtually fraudulent agw models and energy budgets make assumptions which are not consistent with reality.

the system not closed.

1. not only does the earth process co2 in its sinks.... I have seen a review of a study in which the scientists concluded the earth off gasses co2 into the atmosphere. (so therefore the co2 levels are set by some mechanism. I suggest that the way the air holds more water vapor when it is warmer.. it could that a warmer earth holds co2.

2. the warming of the earth does not just come from the sun... (and agw co2) it also comes from volcanoes, vents and probably people. So if there is warming caused by man made co2 we don't have any idea how much. 1 to 99% of the change could be from ocean vents and volcanoes.
Something I have been saying for a few years... when I read that much of the ocean warming was concentrated in indian ocean. And then I read articles like this one which says the indian ocean has a surprising number of vents...

http://www.nature.com/news/indian-ocean-vents-challenge-ridge-theory-1.9689

FC, I found this interesting. Care to comment with some of your "brilliant" insight?
'''''
"...A main question is to what extent the volcanism changes over time. The old idea was that the eruptions of oozing lava and related activity occurred at fairly steady rates. Now, studies hint at the existence of outbursts large enough to influence not only the character of the global sea but the planet’s temperature.


Continue reading the main story
Experts believe the activity may carry major repercussions because the oceanic ridges account for some 70 percent of the planet’s volcanic eruptions. By definition, that makes them enormous sources of heat and exotic minerals as well as such everyday gases as carbon dioxide, which all volcanoes emit. ..."

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/science/midocean-ridges-volcano-underwater.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business Day&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

 

[futurecurrents]

But we know that extra CO2 is from the burning of fossil fuels, not volcanoes.

One can clearly see the increase of CO2 due to man on this chart.

Only denier liars attempt to blame volcanoes.

 

[futurecurrents]

these virtually fraudulent agw models and energy budgets make assumptions which are not consistent with reality.

the system not closed.

1. not only does the earth process co2 in its sinks.... I have seen a review of a study in which the scientists concluded the earth off gasses co2 into the atmosphere. (so therefore the co2 levels are set by some mechanism. I suggest that the way the air holds more water vapor when it is warmer.. it could that a warmer earth holds co2.

2. the warming of the earth does not just come from the sun... (and agw co2) it also comes from volcanoes, vents and probably people. So if there is warming caused by man made co2 we don't have any idea how much. 1 to 99% of the change could be from ocean vents and volcanoes.
Something I have been saying for a few years... when I read that much of the ocean warming was concentrated in indian ocean. And then I read articles like this one which says the indian ocean has a surprising number of vents...

http://www.nature.com/news/indian-ocean-vents-challenge-ridge-theory-1.9689

I have to hand it to you counselor, that's some fancy non-lying there. But the term "virtually fraudulent" is questionable. Like what the hell does it even mean.

But I'm sure the world's science community would like to hear what you have to say about the Indian ocean. You should write a paper and get it published in a peer reviewed journal. lol

 

[jem]

and when you examine the data... you find that the temperature trails change in ocean temps by a year and change in air temp by 9 months. If you look at your chart carefully you an see the red line jumps before the blue line at the big turns.

your chart makes my point.

But we know that extra CO2 is from the burning of fossil fuels, not volcanoes.

One can clearly see the increase of CO2 due to man on this chart.

Only denier liars attempt to blame volcanoes.

 

[futurecurrents]

and when you examine the data... you find that the temperature trails change in ocean temps by a year and change in air temp by 9 months. If you look at your chart carefully you an see the red line jumps before the blue line at the big turns.

your chart makes my point.

Yes, CO2 level is the earth's thermostat setting. And the recent rise in CO2 is from man not volcanoes. You forgot that part.

Write that paper yet?

 

[jem]

we have many charts from many places showing that the level of co2 in the atmosphere... follows natural systems and not the co2 being produced by man.

you are just lying or ass off or incapable of understanding the charts and the studies I have presented to you... multiple times.

here is the long term lag in the proxy records...

here is the lag behind ocean temps...

Yes, CO2 level is the earth's thermostat setting. And the recent rise in CO2 is from man not volcanoes. You forgot that part.

 

[futurecurrents]

So you're saying that man has not caused the 40% rise in CO2 and that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas?