Don't need to launch nukes. Europe is also getting increasingly frustrated with China. Time to decouple. North America and Europe need to figure out how to become less dependent on China. Yes, this will increase the cost of goods in the short-term. Yes, it will cause inflation. Yes, many American companies who export to China will be hurt. However, in the long run, we'll be far better off. Simply can't trust China. They lie, cheat, and steal every chance they get. We should have learned by now.
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Don't need to launch nukes. Europe is also getting increasingly frustrated with China. Time to decouple. North America and Europe need to figure out how to become less dependent on China. Yes, this will increase the cost of goods in the short-term. Yes, it will cause inflation. Yes, many American companies who export to China will be hurt. However, in the long run, we'll be far better off. Simply can't trust China. They lie, cheat, and steal every chance they get. We should have learned by now.
This NY doctor would agree on the danger/effectiveness of ventilators in treating the "current situation" (no comment on what the current situation may actually be)...
the sun can't be set on the British's Prime Minister! any good man in here who would like volunteer to donate your blood plasma to save this man. He ain't any ordinary man. He's kinda important. You could be knighted!
I didn't read the entire thread so sorry in advance if this came up earlier. But it sounds as if some of you believe that Corona was intentionally developed by China (or rather stolen from Canada) to be used as a biological weapon. I've also heard from elsewhere that Corona is designed to be more lethal among Caucasians. Hence higher mortality rate in the west. Any credence to this?
I don't think there's any credence to the biological weapon approach. Scientists in Wuhan were experimenting with bats and things to develop new versions of a virus that (generously speaking) were for infection research. The most likely case that doesn't involve someone eating bat soup is a worker in the lab got infected and then went out for lunch at the wet market. Since China won't reveal what standard their biological research labs were up to it's hard to say one way or another. However the data that suggests "COVID-19 evolved organically" does not discredit the idea that a virus evolved in sample animals somehow left the lab. In fact, you probably couldn't tell if the virus was deliberately evolved using test animals or evolved "naturally" in some reservoir outside of the lab. We can only say for sure it wasn't crafted using genetic engineering (the study that linked it to HIV was proven false and discredited by numerous very well respected virologists).
As for caucasians -
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full
The sample count is very low but it given the data it seems to disproportionately effect Asian males worse. It's worth it to say that without a larger study it is not clear enough to make any real conclusion.
The higher mortality rate in the west is deriving from a few things:
1. Hitting resort places where retirees live
2. The complete and utter incompetence of our leaders on every side of the aisle
3. China is almost certainly lying about their number of dead and infected
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The virus does not spare anyone. And quarantine measures must be observed
Mass behavior like in stock markets and like people buying huge amounts of toiletpaper.
Proof that they understand nothing and react because their neighbor reacts.
I think that about 50% of the UK does not agree with you (= the remain camp).
Boris/Dominic and their friends are/were cheating and manipulating things all the time.
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Yeah, what's the rationale for hoarding toilet papers, of all things? I can understand food or even guns due to potential food scarcity or riot. But toilet paper? C'mon. It ain't even funny. You live in the most affluent country and the first item on your checklist is the damn toilet paper?
I think you badly missed my point. Taking the actions I was responding to will be perceived by China in much the same way launching nukes at them would be. They will react violently. None of us will be better off for it.
Probably time to get off our high horse as well. The U.S. lie's, cheats, and steals every chance we get as well. I mean hell, at least China didn't invade anyone and put their country into decades of civil war because of some fabricated claim about weapons of mass destruction in the last 20 years! Obviously we see things through our lense and everyone else sees things through theirs. But it's pretty crucial to be able to see the world through the lense of others, if for no other reason then to be able to predict how they will react. And the reaction to the suggestions posed will most probably lead to another partitioning of the world and a second cold war, China is already staking out allies and the U.S. has given them free reign to do wo with the whole "'Murica First" bullshit of abandoning even our allies.