Corona numbers are probably fake in each country

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virtusa

I made a separate thread because I think in future it might be interesting to read it again when everywhere the truth comes out.

I posted a few days ago already:

"Comparing the number of deaths each month with the same month from the last 3 years can give an indication who is right. All the heart diseases, cancers, car accidents... from the previous years are probably each year in the same range. If the total number this year is let's say 12,000 higher it means that probably that number are the COVID 19 victims."

In China there are signs of cover ups as the number of urns ordered are much higher than the number of people that officially died. Politicians want to protect themselves against the population.
 
In Spain they did what I suggested above. Here is the result of their findings (quickly translated with Google)

The El Pais newspaper calculated, based on a comparison of the funeral figures for the Madrid region of March last year and this year, that in reality there may have been 3,000 more deaths than officially counted. For example, 9,007 funeral admissions were registered in the second half of March this year, while last year there were "only" 4,125 in the entire month of March. The newspaper calculated that there were 6,613 more deaths than last year in the same last two weeks of March, while the official death rate from the corona virus in and around the capital stands at 3,439 for that period.

Number of deaths are manipulated, probably everywhere.
El Mundo calculated that Spain has in reality between 27,000 and 41,000 corona deaths. So not the official number of 13,978.
According to the government, people that were tested and had Corona were considered as Corona deaths when they died. People who died without being tested were not counted as Corona victims. So if people die, don't test them to keep the numbers low, was the instruction from the Spanish government.
 
In The Netherlands they do now what I suggested above. Here is the result of their findings (quickly translated with Google)


The Netherlands maps 'hidden corona mortality'

Researchers from the Dutch Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) will publish an estimate of last week's death rate on Friday. The figures provide more insight into the mortality from Covid-19.

Statistics Netherlands publishes these 'hidden' figures every week because of the outbreak of the new corona virus. The researchers did this for the first time last week. Then there appeared to be a difference with the figures from the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM). According to CBS's estimate, 1,200 more people died than average in the fourth week of March, while RIVM had 713 deaths from the coronavirus.

This difference arises because RIVM only reports how many positively tested patients have died. People who die from the coronavirus, but have not been tested, do not end up in these statistics. Statistics Netherlands, on the other hand, has insight into the total excess mortality. That's what it's called when more people die in a week than average. This figure makes it easier to estimate how many people have actually died from the new corona virus.

Friday afternoon it will become clear how large the difference is between the figures from Statistics Netherlands and RIVM for week 14. Based on approximately 80 percent of the data, Statistics Netherlands will estimate how many people died in that week. The researchers also publish the final figures for the preceding weeks.
 
For the people who think that Corona is fake and numbers are manipulated upwards:

Spanish and Dutch officials confirmed that only people who die from Corona and haven been tested positive are taken in account as Corona deaths. All the others are considered as "normal" deaths.

This is just the opposite of what people say that numbers are manipulated upwards.
So real number of Corona victims is HIGHER than the published numbers.

Politicians want to protect their fat paid "job" and not worry people. The higher the numbers the more proof of incompetence of the politians and the President. That's why Trump is also accussing more or less the whole world( the chinese, the democrats, the immigrants...) and pretending he is (like always) doing a phantastic job.

We got used to it: Trump claims all the successes are his and all failures are always someone else's fault.
 
I will update as long as possible the Dutch situation as they give very clear and uptodate numbers. Numbers for the US for the last 2 years are even not available for as far as I can see.

I compare week by week 2019 and 2020.
Officialy there were 1766 corona deaths this year so far, week 14 included. For the same period the total number of deaths in 2020 are 3761 higher then in 2019. Only 1766 were official corona deaths.
So there is a difference of 1995 deaths from which the biggest part will probably be corona deaths as all detah causes are included in the numbers for both years. That means that the REAL corona numbers are 113% higher than what is on the official list. It is highly probable that it will be the same in the US. Especially as Trump will try to keep/manipulate the numbers down as high numbers can damage his chances for the next elections.

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elderado said:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/whistleblower-how-cdc-manipulating-covid-19-death-toll
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If they increase the corona deaths there will be a substantial drop in the total numbers of death. Unless the CDC is manipulating those numbers too. That will be an indication of fraud.

If we take the example of The Netherlands and increase the numbers of corona deaths, the remaining deaths will be far inferior of the numbers of last year as the total number of deaths don't change. That would expose the fraud.

Why would they increase the numbers? The higher the number of corona deaths, the bigger the risk that politicians will be held accountable for that and will get the bill presented the next elections.

We should compare the death statistics as soon as they are available with the numbers of last year. If they don't manipulate the existing data it will be quickly clear how many coronas there were more or less. The fraud will be smaller than the total number of unknows added to the corona list as part of these unknown will be real coron deaths.

Maybe it is useful to know who this Dr Annie Bukacek is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2382191/posts
 
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virtusa said:
It is highly probable that it will be the same in the US. Especially as Trump will try to keep/manipulate the numbers down as high numbers can damage his chances for the next elections.

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It's the other way around. It looks like it is the Netherlands that is suppressing its numbers to benefit someone politically.

In the U.S. absolutely anything that looks like, could have looked like, corona is crammed into the mortality numbers and reported as a corona death. If you tested positive for corona and just died in a head on collision with a drunk driver, then that is reported as a corona death. It is the netherlands that has that big pile of uncategorized deaths.

Probably not an ORANGE MAN BAD problem but we might be able to find something else for those need it to be because that's how they roll.
 
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