Corona 2020

gwb-trading said:
First let's note the author of this article, Marty Makary, who has been pushing a number of questionable COVID claims while promoting Trump-supported COVID responses. He had a previous piece in the Wall Street Journal in February making the same claims -- including the claim the U.S. would reach herd immunity by April. It appears that Marty Makary is doubling down again. This article appears to be just a re-write of the previous one with a desperate reach to find some additional information to support his assertions -- including the cherry-picked data from the California Department of Public Health found in his second paragraph.

As noted earlier - Marty Makary claims that 10 people are infected for every case in the U.S. for COVID is not true. There are only 3 or 4 people infected in the U.S. for every known case. This is due to the U.S. having large amounts of available testing. At the beginning of the pandemic in the U.S. the 10 to 1 factor may have been true when there were limited tests available, but has no longer been true for at least eight months. Dr. Marty Makary claims about the infected percentage of people in the U.S. is not correct -- now he is trying to support it with cherry-picked data that only shows sections of crowded cities where the infection rate is much higher than the rest of the country.

Coupled with this is the fact that in 40% of the people naturally infected with COVID their antibody immunity falls within six months to a level where they can easily be re-infected. (Article with study in the COVID-19 thread today). Of course, Dr. Marty Makary does not account for this reality whatsoever.

Once again Dr. Marty Makary is pushing malarkey. Let's take a look at information from 4 infectious disease experts debunking his earlier WSJ assertions on this subject.

VERIFY: When will the US see herd immunity? A timeline from 4 infectious disease experts
Despite the bold assertion from Dr. Martin Makary, experts say herd immunity will take a while. Here's a breakdown from top health experts.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...erify/65-1d9f7209-c8be-4c6d-a11e-f5a1a5be7941
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Okay.

We will put you down for a "maybe" then.

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Jeez, get a grip woman. You are the CDC Director. We don't want to hear the bit about how you are a wife, a mother, etc so you are going to just go ahead a speak like a hysterical woman. Not helpful.

Now, having said that, I do not deny or discount that there could be some retracement of the dramatic covid decline in recent weeks. But this is the same crew that brought you the "Dark Winter We Are All Going to Die" projections back in January. Just sayin, choose your words more carefully and productively especially since your last hysteria bout did not work out. Maybe it is Spring that we are all going to die. If not, try for summer.

We have corpse lickers here on the forum that have been cheering for covid deaths for over a year now, but I do not know how that will play out now. We are getting further into the Biden administration so it may or may not be useful for them. They are sort of at the cusp where some are arguing that is/would be more proof of orangementbad, but other lefties are worried that new variants and surges could be 100% on Joe and we cannot have that. Whatever their view is, we know it will be jaundiced.

CDC chief warns U.S. headed for ‘impending doom’ as Covid cases rise again: ‘Right now I’m scared’

The U.S. is facing “impending doom” as daily Covid-19 cases begin to rebound once again, threatening to send more people to the hospital even as vaccinations accelerate nationwide, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Monday.

“When I first started at CDC about two months ago I made a promise to you: I would tell you the truth even if it was not the news we wanted to hear. Now is one of those times when I have to share the truth and I have to hope and trust you will listen,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a press briefing.


“I’m going to pause here, I’m going to lose the script, and I’m going to reflect on the recurring feeling I have of impending doom,” Walensky said.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/cdc...id-cases-rise-again-right-now-im-scared-.html
 
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According the libs, covid 19 is somehow a leaders fault, i.e., Trump.

Well, just look at all of these countries will failed leadership. All of them should be kicked out of office.

@gwb-trading Using your standards, Europe clearly has the worst leadership in the entire world.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-c...dia-7e3e9d42-4eba-4b16-8a35-490e6f7a864c.html

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WeToddDid2 said:
According the libs, covid 19 is somehow a leaders fault, i.e., Trump.

Well, just look at all of these countries will failed leadership. All of them should be kicked out of office.

@gwb-trading Using your standards, Europe clearly has the worst leadership in the entire world.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-c...dia-7e3e9d42-4eba-4b16-8a35-490e6f7a864c.html

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The issue is that despite vaccinations the case totals are rising. Europe recognizes this is a crisis and is taking active measures to lockdown. As usual, the U.S. tends to lag what is occurring in Europe - the governors in the U.S. are actively eliminating restrictions -- while ignoring the reality of COVID variants which may overwhelm the U.S. in a couple months. Our only hope is rising vaccination levels -- at this point it is a race in the U.S. between vaccinations and variants. If the U.S. had simply followed the best public health practices until the beginning of June the probability of a deadly COVID surge in the U.S. would have been nearly eliminated.
 
You fear mongering propagandist.

You think the virus and deaths are going to peak during the summer?
Europe had a major issue as they were ramping up hard during the winter...

We... have quite a few states reaping the benefits of partial natural and vaccine immunity right now and shutdown moron states like CA will benefit from warmer weather and sun.


Is there a chance variants will get us hitting new highs ... yes.

Is it likely to happen during the warm weather where people are outdoors getting more Vitamin D? No its not likely

so the vaccine is not our only hope...
We have plenty of hope for now.
If the virus starts ramping up quickly over the next 30 days we can take another look.

gwb-trading said:
The issue is that despite vaccinations the case totals are rising. Europe recognizes this is a crisis and is taking active measures to lockdown. As usual, the U.S. tends to lag what is occurring in Europe - the governors in the U.S. are actively eliminating restrictions -- while ignoring the reality of COVID variants which may overwhelm the U.S. in a couple months. Our only hope is rising vaccination levels -- at this point it is a race in the U.S. between vaccinations and variants. If the U.S. had simply followed the best public health practices until the beginning of June the probability of a deadly COVID surge in the U.S. would have been nearly eliminated.
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jem said:
You fear mongering propagandist.

You the virus and deaths are going to peak during the summer?
Europe had a major issue as they were ramping up hard during the winter...

We... have quite a few states reaping the benefits of immunity and shutdown moron states like CA will benefit from warmer weather and sun.


Is there a chance variants will get us hitting new highs ... yes.

Is it likely to happen during the warm weather where people are outdoors getting more Vitamin D? No its not likely

so the vaccine is not our only hope...
We have plenty of hope for now.
If the virus starts ramping up quickly over the next 30 days we can take another look.
More...

Guess you are not very good at looking at a calendar and figuring out basic concepts like dates and when the summer season starts. Must less what a time lag of six weeks means in a virus timeline if Europe is peaking now.
 
when a moron... can't assemble a cogent counter argument...
he posts vague non responsive bullshit like this quote below by gwBe-lying always.





gwb-trading said:
Guess you are not very good at looking at a calendar and figuring out basic concepts like dates and when the summer season starts. Must less what a time lag of six weeks means in a virus timeline if Europe is peaking now.
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