Cornix's TA Performance

Quote from wrbtrader:

I know for fact that NoDoji and Cornix do not "solely" use TA alone as if nothing else has any impact on their trade decisions based upon what they've said elsewhere in other threads about money management, broker platforms, discipline, trade management, trading experience and so on.

I do not put any weight on such statements unless they're using some serious automation trading.

That's why I say there's only "a few" that make statements as such.

Yet, you debate with many others that say they are profitable and use TA without you asking for any clarification if they use TA with any thing else especially those that clearly define themselves as discretionary traders.

My point, most traders do not discuss discipline, money management, position size management, capitalization, trade management and so on because these are not popular topics at trader forums. In error, most see such as boring discussions. In contrast, they primarily discuss their TA only especially if they're trying to gather an audience of readers.

Anybody that doubts the above can do a very easy test here at ET. Start two threads here at ET. One thread about trade management and the other about TA with charts. You'll quickly see which thread gathers the most replies and which one gathers the most arguments.

This is an issue from the foundation of trading. Every newbie that gets their first charting software...that vendor (e.g. eSignal, CQG, Sierra, Ninja and so on) talks about the bells & whistles of their charting programs...lots of TA stuff. Yet, do you see those charting vendors discussing "money management" to sell their products. :D

Simply, most traders are brainwashed or hypnotized into what they should be concentrating on out of the gates and eventually "some of them" will assume its the only thing they use...there lays the beginning of these debates about TA.

Another proof of the issue. Take a look at many of the trade journals here in the journal section...as soon as someone has a trade problem or ask for help...most of the replies are about tweaking the TA, tweaking the entry signals or whatever. Very little replies about all that other stuff that's arguably just as important or more importantly on any given trading day depending upon the trader.

No. Both corn and doji claim their TA can be automated--- if so, it's only TA at work not subjective reasoning or experience. Perhaps they have said other things--- I have no clue but that would be typical of stealth vendors.


Remove TA from the equation and the success factor would be equal. IF these folks are successful, and that's a big IF, it's despite TA not because of it.

Have you read Aronsons book about the truth of TA? What is your opinion?
 
Hmmm, very interesting. In your own journal you contradict yourself by saying, and I paraphrase, that you do not suggest how anyone should trade, that you only post how you trade.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=263424&perpage=6&pagenumber=191


It's weird because your below quote sounds an awful lot like you suggesting how someone else should trade. Just some food for thought as I'm sure Cornix doesn't need you to tell him that his method would be better off without TA.

Quote from marketsurfer:




Remove TA from the equation and the success factor would be equal. IF these folks are successful, and that's a big IF, it's despite TA not because of it.

 
Quote from marketsurfer:

No. Both corn and doji claim their TA can be automated--- if so, it's only TA at work not subjective reasoning or experience. Perhaps they have said other things--- I have no clue but that would be typical of stealth vendors.

Remove TA from the equation and the success factor would be equal. IF these folks are successful, and that's a big IF, it's despite TA not because of it.

Have you read Aronsons book about the truth of TA? What is your opinion?

There you go again, trying to extend the debate via your typical of stealth vendors commentary about cornix and NoDoji. Didn't others say the same about you ? Is that what this is really all about to you...you're belief these guys/gals are vendors. :confused:

Lets pretend they were vendors. They are not violating any of ET rules and because of such are welcome. Heck, Baron and Joe have said vendors are welcome here at ET just as long as they don't advertise or market themselves here without being a sponsor.

Regardless, I've never seen cornix or NoDoji promote a service here that one would consider to be there own service. Also, I've never seen them use phrases like "we", "our", "my students" and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong considering I haven't read every message post they've ever made here at ET.

By the way, as I stated to you many times in the past, keep using whatever it is that you think is one of the reason you're profitable. Thus, if you or anyone else is using TA as a trading tool with other tools...it would be kind'uv silly to throw it out or change elements of their trading plan just because someone else disagrees with the notion of TA + Other Tools can result in profits.

Last of all, if their methods could be automated, wouldn't these particular profitable discretionary traders have already done such after all of these years. :confused:

TA + Real Information...I agree with you on that.
 
Guys, I remind you this is first and foremost a trading journal. Cornix has made it clear he doesn't mind constructive argument, the keyword being constructive, but we need to balance that with this being a performance journal. For those who want to delve into the nuances of Technical Analysis ad infinitum best to start your own thread. Thanks.
 
Magna, since you're so reactive here, would you mind informing what is allowed on this >300-post journal with *three* trades posted? Where is the TA? Performance? We'll be driving hovercars by the time it is proven that Cornix's TA is profitable.

A trading journal where <1% of the posts are actual trades?
 
Quote from atticus:

Magna, since you're so reactive here, would you mind informing what is allowed on this >300-post journal with *three* trades posted? Where is the TA? Performance? We'll be driving hovercars by the time it is proven that Cornix's TA is profitable.

A trading journal where <1% of the posts are actual trades?

I will appreciate if number of the off-topic posts declines so that percentage of actual calls among posts increases. :)

Also there's no rush, I never promised to provide X calls within Y period of time. So, hovercars? Maybe, I'm not in a hurry. :D

P. S. Four trades.
 
Quote from cornix:

I will appreciate if number of the off-topic posts declines so that percentage of actual calls among posts increases. :)

Also there's no rush, I never promised to provide X calls within Y period of time. So, hovercars? Maybe, I'm not in a hurry. :D

P. S. Four trades.

Four trades is page one, we are on page 56 so I'd say the horses have bolted.

Still, it's your journal and we should respect your wishes.

What we really need is a thread in the TA forum "Surf's Great TA Denigration and Debate". Very clear title and statement of intent. Roll up folks, all welcome. We might wind up with more pages than the FTT thread.
 
Quote from cornix:

I will appreciate if number of the off-topic posts declines so that percentage of actual calls among posts increases. :)

Also there's no rush, I never promised to provide X calls within Y period of time. So, hovercars? Maybe, I'm not in a hurry. :D

P. S. Four trades.

Yeah, 1% on-topic isn't hard to beat, eh? I've never seen such a reaction from mods in a journal where the OP and everyone else discusses everything BUT trading.
 
Quote from justrading:

Four trades is page one, we are on page 56 so I'd say the horses have bolted.

Still, it's your journal and we should respect your wishes.

What we really need is a thread in the TA forum "Surf's Great TA Denigration and Debate". Very clear title and statement of intent. Roll up folks, all welcome. We might wind up with more pages than the FTT thread.

Yea, a separate mega-debate thread on TA would be a good place for these talks.
 
Quote from atticus:

Yeah, 1% on-topic isn't hard to beat, eh? I've never seen such a reaction from mods in a journal where the OP and everyone else discusses everything BUT trading.

Surf's journal is much less about actual trading, yet it's alive and well. :)

I suggest move the general TA debate into a separate thread indeed and myself will just stick to posting performance here with on-topic discussion only.
 
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