Yes, in aggregate Obama was ahead of Romney by a whopping 0.7 on election day.
Cornel West, Progressive Scholar, Announces Third-Party Bid for President
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Yes, in aggregate Obama was ahead of Romney by a whopping 0.7 on election day.
You literally quoted the part where it raised the wage, are you calling your own argument bullshit?
The point is that if raising the min wage only needed Biden to sign an executive order, he would have done it already.
Do you know what the Congress does?
And Trump and Desantis are up more than that over Biden,and they dont need to win by 5+ points like Biden will have to.
Im calling raising the federal min wage as some kind of accomplishment BS.
Im know what Congress does.I know that Biden giving up as fast and with as little resistance as he did with an un elected parliamentarian telling him no millions are not going to be voting for him to fight for them again.Same with healthcare,police reform,free college etc.
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Because it shows how pissed Dem voters are at Biden,which gives a good idea of Dem voter turnout or Green votes in 2024.
Here's the specifics. It's much harder or impossible to shame someone who stands on principle (Cheney, Kinzinger) and near impossible to remove if they also also hold wide support in their states (Romney and Murkowski). It's much easier to shame someone who stands on corruption, and for nothing but themselves and enjoys shitty numbers (Sinema, Manchin).
And fuck "the norm". What is this, a bar mitzvah? "civil discourse/compromise/decorum/tradition" have all become synonyms for "lay down like a mat and acquiesce."
Weird, I don't see you blaming the WH and leadership (Pelosi/Schumer) for being absolute dogshit politicians. I don't see the progs being hold outs when the vote is evenly split.
I honestly don't get this carrying water for Biden, dude's just an average politician that's way better than the alternative. We're not MAGAtards....is it this fear that calling him out on some no-name forum is magically suppressing turnout and making his numbers be in the 30's?
AGAIN, it's not about easy or hard, Trump shamed them regardless and nothing changed because they know that their seats are safe, same for Manchin. Sinema is whole another story who is obviously getting paid and doesn't care a shit about the Dem agenda. There is no shaming people who are shameless. These are all just youtube theories, shaming wont make them change their votes.
A President going on Twitter calling someone's wife ugly is not the norm, Biden or no other President is going to do that.
But there are no whiny progs in the Senate, there are two blue dogs who don't give a shit about the leadership.
I don't give a shit about Biden, I dislike seeing kneejerk neophytes who use Youtube slogans as some sort of political tactic. Like why didn't Biden get police reform and minimum wage passed like he promised, hey moron - do you see the make up of the Senate where it's blocked? Sinema is getting paid big bucks by Wall Street and Manchin only cares about saving his seat with red meat statements - why the fuck would they align with the progressive agenda? Will progs align with bluedog agenda if they whined and cried? And there is nothing you can do to change their minds.
If Democrats wanted big ticket items passed, they should have got more Dems elected in the Senate. Progs who can't even unseat Ron Johnson don't get to blame others for their failure.
And one thing none of these progs and you understand is that the greatest benefit of having a generic Dem in the WH is that you don't have to worry about a MAGAtard President doing stupid things. Politics is mostly about defense which the Republicans understand, you pass the big bills when there is crisis and momentum. Democrats keep losing because they only vote during crisis, so they will vote for Cornel West or not vote at all and then watch the courts become permanently red and then bitch and whine and go to vote. By then its already too late.
If you know Congress then you know Manchin and Sinema decide what gets passed.
'Fighting' is all but semantic nonsense, whining on youtube isn't fighting, there is nothing you can do to change their minds regardless of what you say.
The Dem voter who will sit out or vote Green has always been like this. Greens cried about the environment and then kept Al Gore out of office and then they watch Bush launch an Iraq invasion which would have never happened under Gore. These voters are nothing but virtue signalers living large who don't give a shit what happens to the rest. They want their policies and if they don't get them, they want to watch everything burned down because it's not their house.
The Dem voter leaning Green is responsible for the biggest damage to the country in the last 25 years, because of their tantrums, we got the Supreme Court where it is.
What do you mean nothing changed? Dude made the GOP go full nazi w/their agenda. He made it OK to be overt w/that shit. Sure McTurtle packed the court but Trump still got a say on the picks (against McConnell's choices). If Trump wasn't as spastic undisciplined ADD useless fuck, he'd have rammed thru a lot more of his wish list with shame tactics. Look how bad GOP states that bent the knee on his COVID wishes did.[/QUOTE]
You know sure as hell I'm not saying go on Twitter and insult someone's wife. No need to be disingenuous. I gave you a list of shit he could've hit Manchin with. You make it sound like we didn't have a Teddy or FDR who went HAM on the opposition.
Kid gloves, shit was never put to the test.
Moron, seriously? Yes I see the fucking makeup of the senate and guess what, police reform is an easy ask for these types. Why would they give a fuck about police reform or token shit like weed/shrooms/mdma/ketamine rescheduling (this last one not even needs to go thru congress)? Do you think they're gonna sit there and hold up a bill and take the political hit if it's on TV 24/7 that they're the hold outs? I get minimum wage because they're corrupt but police reform? C'mon. B.b.b.b..but the GOP? Hold meetings w/the sensible ones, at least make a public effort that you're trying. A failed vote on an attempt is better than no attempt at all.
I don't know wtf you're on about. I've made it clear I'm voting dem next election and advise everyone do the same because I understand it's an easier ask to bend someone in a democracy than to relinquish power to an authoritative state. What I'm not blind to is the amount of disappointment in this presidency and the very real threat a black candidate that's loved by many or some self-help lady saying all the same things Joe was saying during his campaign can pose. I don't get how it's on them (or their hypothetical voters) that Joe's numbers are in the gutter.
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