Quote from hapaboy:
Blah, blah, blah. You're a broken moonbat record on endless playback.
The goverment is out to screw you... There are detention camps... Our civil liberties are being eroded....Big Brother is monitoring every move we make...The Bill of Rights and Constitution will be relegated to the dustbin of history...
But when you're asked for proof of the above, what do you provide? Zilch. Nada. Butkus.....
*crickets chirping*
And by the way, I am against many of the things you claimed I am for. But you never bothered to ask, because you're a moonbat, and facts aren't important to you. Hyperbole is.
You're a straight up fool.
Every point I made is Mainstream News.
Even a retarded cave-dweller like you, can use google.
You can use google, can't you?
Secret prisons? Torture? Rendition? Citizen 'databases'? Domestic Intelligent Agency? Government dragnet spying? Police Checkpoints? Suspension of Habeas Corpus? Militarization of Police? Indefinite Detentions? Face Scanning Cameras on every street corner?
Thats all mainstream news.
I know its real hard for a Fascist Hack who relishes Big Government taking him up the ass everyday, but hey. For those of us that actually read news and love the Constitution, America is becoming a Police State.
Everyone can see it. Maybe you can't. Probably cause you're pulling yourself to Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith naked, spooning each other in the flag.
A Neoconned Sheep believes theres a terrorist under every bed but does nothing to stop the Open Borders or North American Union.
Why? Because they believe what they're told.
You don't think for yourself. Nor do you know
HOW to think for yourself.
You're a stupid, coward. A Neoconned Sheep.
So to address your very stupid (and very ignorant) presupposition: what Rights have we lost as Americans?
Sure thing,
FOOL. WITH PLEASURE
1st Amendment has taken a serious hit. Freedom of assembly now must gain 'permits' from the very Government people want to protest against. Often times these permits are denied (how ironic). Free Speech is now cordoned off to "zones". People who ask pointed questions about 911 or confront Government shills are routinely arrested on harassment and assault charges. A litany of peaceful activist groups are spied on and files kept by the FBI who are labeled as 'subversive elements'. Total Unconstitutional.
The 2nd Amendment is under attack. The Supreme Court is now deciding whether Counties and Municipalities have the right to "BAN" firearms within their local boundaries - even on private property - despite the 2nd clearly guaranteeing the right of gun ownership for every American. How about that, dumbfuck? I bet a Fascist whore like you never thought the 2nd Amendment would be under attack in America! Bet it just warms that dry, calloused heart of yours. Just think of all the boot stomping Thuggery Governments can get away with on a disarmed citizenry. Oh joy!!
The 4th Amendment doesn't exist. Its done.
OVER. All of Americas phone calls, internet surfing habits, emails, finances and faxes are copied, collected and listened to by any number of Government Agencies - not least of which is the NSA that operates Echelon, the Telcom spying program (oh yea, lets give them all immunity for 'not breaking any laws'. Isn't that how your Neoconned Double Think goes??), and the AT&T Internet backdoor program that spies on all internet traffic - and VOIP - inside the US. Thats all domestic spying done on average, ordinary dumbfuck Americans (like you) who don't know any better. All done without any kind of Court Order or Express Warrant. Totally Unconstitutional and a Total Electronic Dragnetting of Society. FBI still operates Carnivore and backdoors are built into all Operating Systems, Encryption software and keystroke loggers on every laptop since early 2000. Police and Military routinely use see-through-wall technology as dragnet style LE tactic. Police routinely search and ransack vehicles during check points or traffic stops with no probable cause.
The Right of Due Process Guaranteed under the 5th Amendment is Gone under the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act 1 and 2, and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act. All are redundant iterations that any person - citizen or not - deemed an enemy combatant by the President (or any of his designates) can be stripped of their Citizenship and thrown in the hole. Or renditioned to a foreign shit-hole that specializes in torture. Gone. Forever. No Jury Trial. No right to face accusers.
Fair Compensation for Land Taken for Public Use is Gone. Been totally perverted, in fact. Eminent Domain - as ruled by the Supreme Court - can now include any piece of private land - developed or not - to be transferred to state or local government for resale to PRIVATE Organizations who guarantee higher tax revenue for that allotment. And the State rarely pays fair value as guaranteed by the Constitution. They pay their own 'appraised value. Ironically, Eminent Domain is now being used to seize property to build the North American Super Higher - the gigantic transcontinental 10-laner that will serve as the transport backbone to the North American Union. You remember that now, you dumb turd? Dont ya.
Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Toast. Its not torture cause we don't call it torture. Its called pain compliance. Water bordering, which the US Army (and nearly every other civilized army) deem as torture. Oh, but they're not citizens and we do it in secret prisons off US Soil. Tell me, is Guantanamo Bay US Soil? Or are we just "leasing it" from Cuba to subvert the Constitution under color of law? Law enforcement use pain compliance all the time. No more continuum of force. If you ask the wrong question or keep speaking when an officer "commands" you to shut up, you get tazzed. Thats torture.
Article 1 Section 9. The Writ of Habeas Corpus cannot be rescinded by Congress. Congress voted for the Military Commission Act and in doing so, suspended Habeas and outlawed the most bedrock of all Rights - the Right to Face our Accusers. Thats in your face, Tyranny. Problem is, your too stupid to even know Article 1 Section 9 even existed. Wern't ya?
Congress illegally issued bills of attainder and legislated citizens be stripped on their Constitutional rights based on some designate Status issued by a sitting President, not Jury, no less. The Patriot Acts 1, 2 and Military Commissions are
GROSSLY Unconstitutional as citizens cannot be deemed enemy combatants and stripped of any rights and chucked down the memory hole as per Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution.
Thats really just a cursory overview. Each legislative piece is diabolic in its construction and does enormous damage to the country as a whole, when studied synergistically.
But you won't listen. Cause you're a Drooling Neocon 'tard.
Oh sure you "love" the Country.
We just need to 'destroy the Constitution to save it', don't we? And leave the borders wide open while we're at it, eh dumbshit??
Nows theres a thought. Lets destroy the very fabric of the Country to, as you say, "save it".
But when the Fabric of the Country is destroyed, whats there left to save?
Oh right, a place where you and your Neoconned Thugs can stomp faces from here to eternity. What a reassuring vision of "liberty" and "Freedom" you have.
Quote from hapaboy:
Finally, getting back to the subject of this thread:
What an assinine statement. Fitting, as it came from an ass.
Yeah, that solitary police officer armed with his pistol really is in good shape when he stops a car full of gangbangers armed with AK-47s or other assault rifles. Yessiree, he/she can simply ask the criminals to pause things until he/she can call in SWAT, whom you just know appear at the click of a finger.
Oh yea? You got a link for that, Hapless?
Any proof to back up your endless sob stories of outmatched police and these AR-strapped gangs running wild, gunning down cops left and right?
I think you're full of shit. In fact, I know you are.
Prove this wanton maylay of AR bedlam, or STFU.
Quote from hapaboy:
Yep, those reports of officers around the country being killed by assault rifles were cooked up by the evil gubment, as was the video in the original post which illustrates that the incidences of assault rifles being used in crimes are increasing in staggering rates year over year. Yeah, Bush and Cheney just want to promote more fear-mongering so the police can be armed with automatic weapons, so when they execute their coup d'etat and remove Obama, they'll be able to control the populace and get them into those detention camps of yours with not too much fuss.
Wheres this criminal-orgy of indiscriminate cop killing with machine guns you keep crying about? I've heard maybe one or two stories on the local news over the course of a few years.
Your obsession with imaginary terrors is boring.
OH! Big bad Al Queda is gonna get me!! Iraq is gonna get me!! IRan is gonna get me!! Machine guns are gonna get me!!!
Grow some balls, man. You're acting like a pussy and thinking like a slave.
