Cooltraderdude's TopstepTrader Combine (daily trade report and journal)

Quote from Maverick74:

I've given what I think is the best plan of approach here. I'll go over it again.

Step 1) sign up for the free 10 day trial with no performance reporting. Just work on getting to know the software and learning the ins and outs of trading. If you want, before this try a free 2 week trial with Ninja as well thus giving you 4 solid weeks to put a plan together.

Step 2) start the first combine with the goal of simply being profitable. Don't worry about the other metrics, just focus on making money. Do the 20 day, not the 10 day.

Step 3) Whether or not you qualify for the free combine or not, start a new 20 day, this time with the goal of making money and meeting the performance metrics.

Step 4) Do another 20 day combine and repeat step 3 if you failed to accomplish it. If you did qualify for the refund, do it again.

Step 5) Do another 20 day combine. Continue to do the 20 day combines until you qualify for 3 refunds in a row. This means you are net profitable AND you are adhering to the rules and performance requirements.

Do NOT worry about the p&l requirements. My guess is after the free combine, you will probably need to do 5 to 6 20 day combines before you get 3 in a row. Once you do get 3 in a row, fund your own account at a firm like Velocity Futures. I personally like them because they offer TT, CQG, QST and Ninja and provide a lot of great support. I have no affiliation with them.

So the goal here is to put in a solid 6 months. My guess it will cost the avg guy/girl two combines, the rest should be free. After 6 months being that consistent, you are ready to trade. Now if you don't have any capital to fund your own account. I suggest having 25k at the minimum, then you can keep doing the combine until you meet the p&l requirement or raise the funds on your own through outside sources. This, in my opinion is how one puts together a long term plan to consistency and profitability.

Not trading crude oil in the hole and gunning it the last two days simply to meet some objective that gets you a live account in which you will have no ability to actually trade with consistency or profitability. That is my personal advice.
and you need an outside source at 300-200 ? amount to add to this journey,please explain why 6 combines or 3 are better than doing it for free on your own to your own style,not the rigorous,ridiculous restrictions of a combine designed for the max number to fail
 
Quote from ammo:

this thread was never about you,it was about whether patak was running a scam,draw in the wanna be's,take the 300$ and give a teddy bear to 1 out of a 1000(carnival) you have been promoting it ad nauseum,patak would not divulge the backer, i always assumed it was Najarian,I know jon, and he's bright ,i don't think you are him, but your relentless religious devotion to promotion makes me think you are one of his lackies

You think I'm Dr. J? Seriously? Or work for him? Wow, that's an interesting twist.
 
Quote from ammo:

and you need an outside source at 300-200 ? amount to add to this journey,please explain why 6 combines or 3 are better than doing it for free on your own to your own style,not the rigorous,ridiculous restrictions of a combine designed for the max number to fail

Because I in all my years have never seen a guy take a sim seriously on their own. Or sure guys talk blah, blah, blah....But they never really take it seriously. They avg down into infinity, scalp 1000 times a day since there is no commission. They lose 500k in a day and giggle and re-set the sim to start back at zero. Yes Ammo, I hate to be your father here, but most of these guys act like children. They have zero accountability. Is that all you got?
 
Quote from Maverick74:

You think I'm Dr. J? Seriously? Or work for him? Wow, that's an interesting twist.
i just cant make any logical connection between your fight for this topstep, why would it be any different than your admiration for your acd guy,fisher,who you have more respect for,yet don't campaign nearly as much for,just doesn't add up..come out with it..2 +2 = ?
 
Quote from ammo:

i just cant make any logical connection between your fight for this topstep, why would it be any different than your admiration for your acd guy,fisher,who you have more respect for,yet don't campaign nearly as much for,just doesn't add up..come out with it..2 +2 = ?

Huh? Dude, stop talking out of your ass. I have probably over 3k posts on the ACD thread kissing Fisher's ass. I do everything but unzip his pants and put his dick in my mouth. Have you been to that thread? It's over 1000 f*cking pages and it's been running for over 2 years!!!!!! Come on Ammo grow the f*ck up already. This is a trading message board where people talk about......trading. And some threads run longer then others. If a thread stays active, I'll keep posting. Seriously man, what is your issue?
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Because I in all my years have never seen a guy take a sim seriously on their own. Or sure guys talk blah, blah, blah....But they never really take it seriously. They avg down into infinity, scalp 1000 times a day since there is no commission. They lose 500k in a day and giggle and re-set the sim to start back at zero. Yes Ammo, I hate to be your father here, but most of these guys act like children. They have zero accountability. Is that all you got?
that discipline takes years years of releasing the ego,denial, developing discipline around your person,and trading style,risk averse,risk monster,these things take time to figure out ,as you know,to set up a carrot in the air,50k funding,come one ,come all,and to bend the gun barrel so only the marksmen will notice ,is a scam, if you have traded 10 years as you say, and i don't doubt that,you are aware of this, so come clean ,why are you adamantly promoting topstep and ignoring that which is obvious to even the mildly seasoned trader that this one size fits all is a pipedream,only for the top 1% of the sniper school
 
Quote from ammo:

that discipline takes years years of releasing the ego,denial, developing discipline around your person,and trading style,risk averse,risk monster,these things take time to figure out ,as you know,to set up a carrot in the air,50k funding,come one ,come all,and to bend the gun barrel so only the marksmen will notice ,is a scam, if you have trade 10 years as you say, and i don't doubt that,you are aware of this, so come clean ,why are you adamantly promoting topstep and ignoring that which is obvious to even the mildly seasoned trader that this one size fits all is a pipedream,only for the top 1% of the sniper school

Are you actually READING my posts? Serious question. Are you? Because I actually advised people AGAINST accepting funding from TOPSTEP in lieu of opening an account at Velocity where I actually know the founder Jay Earnest. Oh wait, am I shilling for Velocity now? Seriously dude, stop, go back the last 5 pages and re-read what I wrote. No, seriously do it. I actually have told guys to self fund. Don't believe me? READ IT! It's there in black and white. Anything else Ammo or did your Friday night not go so well so all you've got to get a hard on for is playing ET detective.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Huh? Dude, stop talking out of your ass. I have probably over 3k posts on the ACD thread kissing Fisher's ass. I do everything but unzip his pants and put his dick in my mouth. Have you been to that thread? It's over 1000 f*cking pages and it's been running for over 2 years!!!!!! Come on Ammo grow the f*ck up already. This is a trading message board where people talk about......trading. And some threads run longer then others. If a thread stays active, I'll keep posting. Seriously man, what is your issue?
i have been to that thread and your admiration for fisher ,an accomplished fisherman for a certain segment of the market is justified, but your defense of topstep is illogically over the top, fess up
 
Quote from ammo:

i have been to that thread and your admiration for fisher ,an accomplished fisherman for a certain segment of the market is justified, but your defense of topstep is illogically over the top, fess up

I'm not defending Topstep, I'm defending the "model". Unfortunately there are only 3 firms as of now using this model and the other two suck. I think the "model" is interesting. I have already written at length all my criticisms of how they are executing their model. Did you not read my 100 page thread called Mav's combine? Maybe you should Mr. Detective.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Are you actually READING my posts? Serious question. Are you? Because I actually advised people AGAINST accepting funding from TOPSTEP in lieu of opening an account at Velocity where I actually know the founder Jay Earnest. Oh wait, am I shilling for Velocity now? Seriously dude, stop, go back the last 5 pages and re-read what I wrote. No, seriously do it. I actually have told guys to self fund. Don't believe me? READ IT! It's there in black and white. Anything else Ammo or did your Friday night not go so well so all you've got to get a hard on for is playing ET detective.
so after 50 posts defending topstep and 3 posts telling folks to self fund, you are going to go with the self fund argument,i didn't actually count if you want to split hairs,you win,but the gist is go topstep,fess up or change the subject to velocity..am are we changing the subject
 
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