Constitutional Crisis: Colorado Dems Pass Bill To Eliminate Electoral College

Exactly my point.....I am not making any position on the subject but proving Cheetoh is a flip flopping idiot and I find it funny conservatives who hail the EC and Trump's victory don't realize Cheetoh shit all over it haha.

We all know Cheetoh is a flip flopper.

Still, that doesn't mean the Electoral College is a bad choice or should be disbanded.
 
We all know Cheetoh is a flip flopper.

Still, that doesn't mean the Electoral College is a bad choice or should be disbanded.

I actually agree with you. Trump’s election, while a stain on American democracy, doesn’t invalidate the system of checks and balances that the electoral college offers.
 
Federalist No. 68
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

Federalist No. 68 is the 68th essay of The Federalist Papers, and was published on March 12, 1788. It is probably written by Alexander Hamilton under the pseudonym "Publius", the name under which all of the Federalist Papers were published. Since all of them were written under this pseudonym, who wrote what cannot be verified with certainty. Entitled "The Mode of Electing the President", No. 68 describes a perspective on the process of selecting the Chief Executive of the United States. In writing this essay, the author sought to convince the people of New York of the merits of the proposed Constitution. Number 68 is the second in a series of 11 essays discussing the powers and limitations of the Executive branch and the only one to describe the method of selecting the president.

(Much more at above url)
 
Maine and Nebraska state laws are not "carve outs."

There is and was no one preferred method envisioned by the Founders.

Unable to agree on any particular method for selecting presidential electors, the Founding Fathers left the choice of method exclusively to the states in Article II, Section 1
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors….”
The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive."

States have used a variety of methods over the years. Just in Massachusetts for example:
● In 1789, Massachusetts had a two-step system in which the voters cast ballots indicating their preference for presidential elector by district, and the legislature chose from the top two vote-getters in each district (with the legislature choosing the state’s remaining two electors).
● In 1792, the voters were allowed to choose presidential electors in four multi-member regional districts (with the legislature choosing the state’s remaining two electors).
● In 1796, the voters elected presidential electors by congressional districts (with the legislature choosing only the state’s remaining two electors).
● In 1800, the legislature took back the power to pick all of the state’s presidential electors (entirely excluding the voters).
● In 1804, the voters were allowed to elect 17 presidential electors by district and two on a statewide basis.
● In 1808, the legislature decided to pick the electors itself.
● In 1812, the voters elected six presidential electors from one district, five electors from another district, four electors from another, three electors from each of two districts, and one elector from a sixth district.
● In 1816, Massachusetts again returned to state legislative choice.
● In 1820, the voters were allowed to elect 13 presidential electors by district and two on a statewide basis.
● Then, in 1824, Massachusetts adopted its 10th method of awarding electoral votes, namely the statewide winner-take-all rule that is in effect today.
● In 2010, Massachusetts enacted the National Popular Vote interstate compact. This change will go into effect when states possessing a majority of the electoral votes (270 out of 538) enact the same compact.

These changes were accomplished using the Constitution’s built-in method for changing the method of electing the President, namely section 1 of Article II. That constitutional provision gives Massachusetts (and all the other states) exclusive and plenary power to choose the manner of awarding their electoral votes.

Thank you for this but my point was based on constitutional intent being adverse to a national popular vote and a circumstance that would compel an elector to be faithless rather than a free agent, should they choose to cast a faithless vote.

As I said, this is my opinion and I’m not trying to say the Massachusetts compact scenario wouldn’t be legal just no one has standing to oppose that law so it is not legally tested either. So it’s citation is legally useless.
 
Only chumps writing for HuffPost or Vox try to claim that the Electoral College was about slavery. These authors are among the most ignorant writers.

Again, then kindly explain why there was a 2/3s clause in the constitution.
 
Again, then kindly explain why there was a 2/3s clause in the constitution.

Actually it is a 3/5th clause. It is the compromise for representation in Congress based on population. The Southern states wanted each slave to be counted as one person and the Northern states wanted a slave to not be counted at all. The 3/5 figure was a compromise which allowed Southern states increased representation in the U.S. House. As seen by all the quotes of the creators of the Electoral College system the 3/5 compromise was not part of their decision process when creating the EC. - not mentioned in the Federalist No. 68, nor mentioned in letters or other documents related to the mode of electing a president.
 
Actually it is a 3/5th clause. It is the compromise for representation in Congress based on population. The Southern states wanted each slave to be counted as one person and the Northern states wanted a slave to not be counted at all. The 3/5 figure was a compromise which allowed Southern states increased representation in the U.S. House. As seen by all the quotes of the creators of the Electoral College system the 3/5 compromise was not part of their decision process when creating the EC. - not mentioned in the Federalist No. 68, nor mentioned in letters or other documents related to the mode of electing a president.

You’re showing your ass here. And how do we get 538 electors?

FYI: the 3/5s compromise increased Virginia’s electoral votes by 20%!
 
You’re showing your ass here. And how do we get 538 electors?

FYI: the 3/5s compromise increased Virginia’s electoral votes by 20%!

You did not even know it was 3/5ths and not 2/3rds. I will let others judge who is showing their ignorance here.
 
You did not even know it was 3/5ths and not 2/3rds. I will let others judge who is showing their ignorance here.

Unimportant. Let’s get back to the point, you claimed the 3/5 compromise had no bearing on the number of electors and I asked where do we get 538 electors?

Let me know what Wikipedia tells you and we can see if your claim holds any water.
 
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