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No thanks. I don't gamble with idiots. If you can't understand cumulative open and closed positions and no expired positions allowed to remain in the account, then you remain an idiot. Once you pass that hurdle, then we'll test your brain again for competency. If you're that good, C2 is the place to prove it and are willing to let you play again.


Well then you truly are a hydrocephalic test-case. Your system PnL shows an OPEN PnL LOSS of >$750,000 as of seven days ago. Either you were sitting on a $750k open position loss, or it's expired positions which are not properly accounted.

Your OPEN P/L mark is proof of your scam.

If you grow some balls or skill, the bet stands. Send me a PM when you attain either.
 
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Well then you truly are a hydrocephalic test-case. Your system PnL shows an OPEN PnL LOSS of >$750,000 as of seven days ago. Either you were sitting on a $750k open position loss, or it's expired positions which are not properly accounted.

Your OPEN P/L mark is proof of your scam.

If you grow some balls or skill, the bet stands. Send me a PM when you attain either.
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My balls are bigger than your brain(s). I thought you said you were done posting? Seriously, who would want to bet with an idiot like you except another idiot???:D :D :D
 
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My balls are bigger than your brain(s). I thought you said you were done posting? Seriously, who would want to bet with an idiot like you except another idiot???:D :D :D
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I think you'r dodging the question. Where does the negative open P/L come from then?

Ursa..
 
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I think you'r dodging the question. Where does the negative open P/L come from then?

Ursa..
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You must be riskarb's secrertary. I think the correct question to ask is how could the graph be near the highs with an open drawdown of more than -825k? So why don't you ask the developer of C2 that question and then get back to us with the right answer?
 
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Richard...

I have many years in the business and I don’t really want to get into the specifics on my background.

I am currently with a group that runs several strategies... dispersion, off floor liquidity infusion / prop trading in a few dozen names and our own prop model on S and P options both options on the cash and futures.

I sit on the prop S and P desk by choice and when we have people out I’ll work the other stuff but the S and P stuff is my baby. It’s a static model and its only front month stuff so there is a lot of patience involved.

As I said I have been in the business a long time and I just really enjoy real discussion about options. I don’t, on the other hand care for some of the shenanigans that go on at some of the other boards where I have posted. I recently learned of this one and it’s my understanding that it’s monitored and a lot of the tomfoolery that exists elsewhere on the net does not go on here.

As far as the name goes it grew out of a mockery of some sad character who last year or so posted all sorts of phony trades on another board and I could not resist mocking him. I will gladly refrain from that sort of stuff here, but as I mentioned I never see the point of posted after the fact trades or bragging about profits which cant be proven.

Nice to meet you


Jim
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You too, I'll look forward to your posts...quite a bit of drivel here but the occasional gem and often some really good laughs. actually I was talking about my name...which was sort of assigned to me...but interesting story abt yours.
 
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You must be riskarb's secrertary. I think the correct question to ask is how could the graph be near the highs with an open drawdown of more than -825k? So why don't you ask the developer of C2 that question and then get back to us with the right answer?
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I think Atticus' suggested possibilities already are very plausible.
Now it's your turn to suggest some other possibilities. It is you who are stuck with this 'false' account-numbers, so I suggest you contact C2 and ask for an explain.
Do that, or remain the joker that you are making of yourself.

Ursa..
 
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I think Atticus' suggested possibilities already are very plausible.
Now it's your turn to suggest some other possibilities. It is you who are stuck with this 'false' account-numbers, so I suggest you contact C2 and ask for an explain.
Do that, or remain the joker that you are making of yourself.

Ursa..
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I think what you're suggesting now is that C2 is falsifying their records and making Pinnacle look good. I surely can't do it, even if I knew how. I also don't believe that the developer would appreciate seeing you bash his accounting system. I tell you what, I'll make it easy on your brain to comprehend and give you a little hint; July will expire in 15 days or so. When that day comes, you'll say approximately half a million of the -825k come off the board and become visible in the closed log. You'll also see that Pinnacle's graph won't change much(unless I have a big loss in the mean time - not likely). In addition, you'll be able to see that these positions have not expired before July expiration as you and Arby boy are fabricating with your assumptions. I promise you, you're going to look like a fool. :eek:
 
Your equity chart would show a peak above $1.7-million if the $825k is truly the result of open positions. An "open p/l" loss is netted. Either the equity chart or the "open p/l" computation is incorrect.

Serious question -- 500k is attributable to July expiration? What about the remaining $325k?

Edit: I looked at his system and the equity chart doesn't reflect peak-equity in the account. It's apparent from the "brokerage account" listing that a peak occurred at ~$1,705,000 before the drop to $754,000. The brokerage account is $-scaled to match the C2 account dollars.

So, the C2 equity chart is incorrect in omitting the equity peak.
 
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Your equity chart would show a peak above $1.7-million if the $825k is truly the result of open positions. An "open p/l" loss is netted. Either the equity chart or the "open p/l" computation is incorrect.

Serious question -- 500k is attributable to July expiration? What about the remaining $325k?

Edit: I looked at his system and the equity chart doesn't reflect peak-equity in the account. It's apparent from the "brokerage account" listing that a peak occurred at ~$1,705,000 before the drop to $754,000. The brokerage account is $-scaled to match the C2 account dollars.

So, the C2 equity chart is incorrect in omitting the equity peak.
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Seriously Arby boy, are you that stupid??? I mean c'mon, a six grader would have figured it out by now. The graph peaking to 1.7 mil is not possible when there are always open losses with closed gains. It would be nice if it did though. Remember, I trade in combinations, so the winning trade and the losing trade are issued usually within days of each other. And yes, approximately -500k will be coming off come July expiration day. The rest varies from August till January '08. The bottom line student and for the last time;

Closed Trades P/L := 1,567,376 (you can download them to a spreadsheet from the site)

Open Trades P/L := -812,225

Net P/L := 755,151
 
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