Conservatives: Always on the wrong side of history.

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

If it went such this time, it would be a whole different result. The conservatives have all the money. And don't make this racist and go "north/south" on me. It has nothing to do with slavery, which was the tipping point for the civil war.

The South, ironically enuf, felt the same way you do. It had nothing to do with slaves. It was all about "culture" and "heritage".

So let me concede the point and say the conservatives want to rebel, just how, in theory, would they do this?

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Mav88:

Concept is correct? well mr. communist, never mind the morality for now, but the theoretical underpinnings of all Marx wrote, which is the labor theory of value, has been thoroughly refuted and rejected.

It is in fact not correct, you are on the wrong side of history, not to mention economic thinking.

Coming from you 88.....well, I just have to consider the source. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Coming from you 88.....well, I just have to consider the source. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

mav is correct the "labor theory of value, has been thoroughly refuted and rejected."

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

mav is correct the "labor theory of value, has been thoroughly refuted and rejected."

You also completely share 88's values, so again, I must consider the source. You have already posted content from a racialist website, and an extension of that philosophy is that you believe in a Darwinist economy.

Ayn Rand, anyone?

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from RCG Trader:

is that you believe in a Darwinist economy.

Define it .

 

[PiggyBank]

Quote from Lucrum:

Apparently so did the founding fathers as they didn't mention it in the constitution.

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

They approved to not make it an issue otherwise the New Republic would have been doomed before it started.

+2 each

SS just isn't legitimate. It is outside of federal power as laid out in the Constitution. AND there are writings from the time stating, in certain terms, that only the listed powers are legit.. entitlements aren't one of them. This should be a matter for each State to decide.

Some of the founders supported slavery, some did not. The authors of the Constitution knew they could never get it ratified if they made slavery an issue. Jefferson, for one, was aware of his hypocrisy and I believe he released all of his slaves by will, when he died. They left it up to future generations to deal with the problem, it's been dealt with.. let's move the fuck on. Oh and slavery didn't exist here because of the newly formed nation, it was institutionalized by the (British) colonies long before.

 

[Mav88]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Coming from you 88.....well, I just have to consider the source. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

oh it's not how I feel, it's a consensus conclusion

we are talking about a theory that has been analyzed by thousands and rejected both for its quantitaive predictive power and its logical consistency. Figures you would not know that. You are in intellectual wacko land if you still think the LTV has an merit.

 

[Mav88]

Quote from RCG Trader:

You also completely share 88's values, so again, I must consider the source. You have already posted content from a racialist website, and an extension of that philosophy is that you believe in a Darwinist economy.

Ayn Rand, anyone?

and communism is a dehumanizing tyrranical system of government, nice values

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RCG Trader:

They didn't mention slavery either, does that mean they approve?

I think several of them owned slaves.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from PiggyBank:



Some of the founders supported slavery, some did not. The authors of the Constitution knew they could never get it ratified if they made slavery an issue. Jefferson, for one, was aware of his hypocrisy and I believe he released all of his slaves by will, when he died. They left it up to future generations to deal with the problem, it's been dealt with.. let's move the fuck on. Oh and slavery didn't exist here because of the newly formed nation, it was institutionalized by the (British) colonies long before. [/B]

Legally it hasn't been an issue for over 140 yrs , but somehow to lots of african americans they are psychologically stuck there as if they experienced it daily personally.
They will not ,cannot move on;nor can they compete & function in a global "information"economy.