Conservative Mind Set & Conspiracy Theories
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I thought Jem's nonsense was about as intellectually deficient as it gets but you're obviously vying for the title too.
Depressed economic growth, wild inflation, heavy taxes, and the requisitioning of property for the army was the condition of Caesar's big government. It doesn't help whatever it is you're trying to dodge around.
Pretend Jesus says, give your money to Caesar - period. No conditions no ifs or buts. Right wing conservatives call people like that leftist libtard commies.
It's very simple so you really should be able to get it. The irony of it at least if not the religiously motivated blind political hypocrisy.
Just a few corrections to your otherwise fine post: I'm pretty sure I would have said "Jesus was gay" rather than "Jesus is gay". Because personally I think the whole idea of Jesus, as portrayed in the Bible, is a fairy tale. (Wow, I just realized how prophetic that "fairy" business is.) But if in fact there was a Jesus that was like the Jesus of the old testiclement, then he was either a eunuch or he was gay! Mainly I asserted that he was gay for LEAPup's benefit. But if it makes you squeamish that's Ok with me. The more I think about it, the more I think I must be right, but i'm not entirely ruling out the possibility that in Primates being born to an unimpregnated mother would result in a eunach. Maybe you also need to watch "Bridegroom". That movie must have been made with both you and LEAPup in mind.
Secondly, what I said about the IRS matter, if you'll take the time to read everything I wrote -- I know you'll find it fascinating -- was that the IRS "targeted", or I may have, on occasion, used a less pejorative term, BOTH conservative AND Liberal groups. There were, of course, about ten conservative political action groups applying for 503c status per each Liberal group. And I also made it very clear that, in my humble opinion, none of these groups should qualify as "social welfare" organizations. I also made it clear that as far as I was concerned the IRS should have summarily turned down all requests to be pre-certified, as it were, for 503c status. But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, as the IRS discovered after they opened the door a crack trying to be nice. In the end, due to their own stupidity in choosing to be nice to vultures, they were left with no legal option, other than putting all the obvious 503c imposters on the hot sweat. I also made clear that these plainly political organizations should have asked for 527 status, which is where they belonged. The information I passed on to you and your fellow Primates was the same information given to me on the Propublica Website, which was by far the most detailed source of information on this subject available to me.
Finally, I did say that Republicans prevented Obamacare from working, or words to that effect. YOU'RE CORRECT! CONGRATULATIONS!. I said it, and I meant it. The Republicans, who were in the business of "ruining" the Obama Presidency -- and he certainly did what he could to help them -- added Killing Obamacare to their agenda. Well they failed. They couldn't kill it, though GOD KNOWS THEY TRIED! But they did, along with their fellow Primates in the Democratic Party, as I said, or at least as you said I said
, "prevent it from from working [well?]". I added later, you must have noticed since you're such a careful reader, all the ways in which the Democrats had ALSO prevented the ACA from working [well], such as not starting by insisting on repeal of McCarran-Ferguson; not detaching medical coverage from a specific employer; and killing jointly, with the Republicans -- who are far more practiced at killing things than the Democrats -- the public option, which you cleverly confused with "single payer" in a recent post . I ALSO pointed out in one of my numerous posts, ad nauseum, that the Court played a role in neutering the ACA by ruling that individual States could Opt out of medicaid expansion. (This last ACA "effectiveness killer" is about to be undone, and all States will soon expand medicaid. The idiot, Republican, Governors of the opting-out States are being exposed as fools for turning down millions that would have otherwise been injected into their economies!) 
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Once again, Jem, you've trapped me into responding to one of your vapid posts. I should have learned a long time ago that your brain is hardwired with responses that you can't help repeating ad infinitum et ultra. New information rebounds off your cranium like bullets off Kryptonite. It's as though for decades you've had tiny Japanese women working up there with microscopic soldering irons making permanent synapse connections that would survive re-entry from a moon voyage with nary a disconnection. In my entire life, which is long, I've known only one other soul even approaching your imperviousness. Oh, you do read after a fashion, but what goes up there gets all discombobulated, when it hits those solder joints, and rebounds back out in a harmless stream of vapid impulses.
1. if this damn site was working better I would go get your quotes and show you are full of shit.
but anyone who knows that thread knows you were spouting the propublica bullshit as a misdirection. As some democrats still are...
The point we kept making was that the IRS admitted its unfair targeting...
http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/14/read-the-inspector-generals-damning-repo
"The IRS used inappropriate criteria that identified for review Tea Party and other organizations applying for tax-exempt status based upon their names or policy positions instead of indications of potential political campaign intervention. Ineffective management: 1) allowed inappropriate criteria to be developed and stay in place for more than 18 months, 2) resulted in substantial delays in processing certain applications, and 3) allowed unnecessary information requests to be issued."
and...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-email-document-shows-agency-cover-mode.html
Republicans clashed with the Internal Revenue Service's new commissioner Wednesday in a Capitol Hill hearing that featured the unveiling a document indicating that the agency planned as early as 2012 to change its rules in a way that justified singling out tea party groups for special scrutiny.
The document, an email from Treasury Department tax policy attorney Ruth Madrigal to a group of IRS officials including the disgraced Lois Lerner.
Republicans clashed with the Internal Revenue Service's new commissioner Wednesday in a Capitol Hill hearing that featured the unveiling a document indicating that the agency planned as early as 2012 to change its rules in a way that justified singling out tea party groups for special scrutiny.
The document, an email from Treasury Department tax policy attorney Ruth Madrigal to a group of IRS officials including the disgraced Lois Lerner.
'Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s,' Madrigal wrote, quoting an election law blog and referring to the 501(c)(4) tax-exempt groups that were the subject of the tea party targeting scandal, 'but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting.'
House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Dave Camp insisted Wednesday that Madrigal's note indicated that new regulations were planned as a 'remedy to the target[ing]' back in 2011 and 2012. 'I’m pretty sure [off-plan] means "hidden from the public",' he said
but anyone who knows that thread knows you were spouting the propublica bullshit as a misdirection. As some democrats still are...
The point we kept making was that the IRS admitted its unfair targeting...
http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/14/read-the-inspector-generals-damning-repo
"The IRS used inappropriate criteria that identified for review Tea Party and other organizations applying for tax-exempt status based upon their names or policy positions instead of indications of potential political campaign intervention. Ineffective management: 1) allowed inappropriate criteria to be developed and stay in place for more than 18 months, 2) resulted in substantial delays in processing certain applications, and 3) allowed unnecessary information requests to be issued."
and...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-email-document-shows-agency-cover-mode.html
Republicans clashed with the Internal Revenue Service's new commissioner Wednesday in a Capitol Hill hearing that featured the unveiling a document indicating that the agency planned as early as 2012 to change its rules in a way that justified singling out tea party groups for special scrutiny.
The document, an email from Treasury Department tax policy attorney Ruth Madrigal to a group of IRS officials including the disgraced Lois Lerner.
Republicans clashed with the Internal Revenue Service's new commissioner Wednesday in a Capitol Hill hearing that featured the unveiling a document indicating that the agency planned as early as 2012 to change its rules in a way that justified singling out tea party groups for special scrutiny.
The document, an email from Treasury Department tax policy attorney Ruth Madrigal to a group of IRS officials including the disgraced Lois Lerner.
'Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s,' Madrigal wrote, quoting an election law blog and referring to the 501(c)(4) tax-exempt groups that were the subject of the tea party targeting scandal, 'but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting.'
House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Dave Camp insisted Wednesday that Madrigal's note indicated that new regulations were planned as a 'remedy to the target[ing]' back in 2011 and 2012. 'I’m pretty sure [off-plan] means "hidden from the public",' he said
you are such a troll .. you cut the quote off...
I was using the full quote....
"Render unto Caesar" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels, which reads in full, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ
.[Matthew 22:21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Render_unto_Caesar
For those who care, there is a very good run down of what the phrases meaning. Wikipedia even discusses stu's interpretation but it is dismissed as being unlikely Jesus would have endorsed such a "weird" concept.
I was using the full quote....
"Render unto Caesar" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels, which reads in full, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ
.[Matthew 22:21]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Render_unto_Caesar
For those who care, there is a very good run down of what the phrases meaning. Wikipedia even discusses stu's interpretation but it is dismissed as being unlikely Jesus would have endorsed such a "weird" concept.