Quote from bigarrow:
I don't know how this law will work or if it will be changed for the better. But the idea of mandatory insurance does just the opposite from what you're saying, it forces people to buy insurance that is the opposite from what you said about giving it away to people who are too lazy to pay for it. It works with auto insurance and could work for health insurance too, just common sense and wasn't that a republican idea to began with.
Bullshit the number of people who could afford insurance who simply chose not to pay, and ended up needing it was very small, now young people like myself who dont need insurance can simply eat the fine and buy insurance if something catastrophic happens. I havent been to doctor in 10 years why would i pay 500+ a month for insurance when i can just pay a 95$ fine? As it stood before i could have just bought a plan with a 30k deductible for less than a hundred bucks a month.
If you take the 500 a month i would be wasting on healthcare, and i go for 10 years without it, and instead invest and make an average return of 20% per year it turns into 230k, i think ill take my chances and pay the fine for now, thx.
Plus along with those people you are now going to have all the people with preexisting conditions added to the roles, as well as morbidly obese people, and smokers, who can no longer be charged more even though they choose to live a shitty lifestyle.
You have no clue what is coming because you have never lived in a government run healthcare system. In canada the average wait time for an MRI is 17 weeks in the U.S. you can get in right away.
My good friend just died of leukemia and when he got sick they couldnt even do the treatment in canada, they had to send him to seattle, the government covered his treatment but then he had to stay in quarantine while his bone marrow transplant took cause they were putting him on drugs to kill his immune system so it wouldnt block it. The cost to stay in quarantine was 1000 dollars a day and the government wouldnt cover it, he ended up having to sell his business, and he came home to canada early when he ran out of money, and ended up catching pnemonia and dying.
Inevitably what is going to happen in the states with 30 million more people insured is we are going to have a 2 tier healthcare system, 1 for the top 5 percent where there will be little to no wait time at a much higher price, where you will need much more expensive healt insurance in order to have access to those doctors.
And one tier for the other 95% of the country where wait times are going to be twice as long, and the government is going to deem what is and isnt necessary, the responsible middle class people who always followed the rules and paid their bills are going to see their healthcare coverage destroyed, and they are going to have to pay up to subsidise the leeches and unhealthy people.
Sure some people are getting screwed with the present healthcare system, and i feel for those people but all obamacare does is shift around the people who get screwed, now the government has decided i should get screwed instead of the person with the pre existing condition, or the person who was too lazy to work and pay for their healthcare.
Why if it wasnt fair for the person with the pre existing condition to have to pay more for healthcare is it now all of a sudden fair to stick me with his tab? All obamacare does is change whose paying.
I have an uncle who needed a new hip and couldnt walk without it, he is 60 years old, because the government deemed it non essential it took them a year and a half to give him the operation, and in the mean time he rolled through most of his life savings because he was a contractor and he couldnt work until he got a new hip.
They were fixated on it before it was even drafted in final form! Their concern wasn't that it was a bad bill, but just the opposite. They were afraid it might succeed and then they would be stuck with more Democrat vermin in the White House. They wanted to kill it before it went fully into effect, and tried endlessly. They didn't want to take a chance on it actually working. They are far too stupid to know whether it is good or bad.