You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Conservative Mind Set & Conspiracy Theories
- Thread starter piezoe
- Start date
Quote from fhl:
Everyone from Obama to various democratic congressmen to various liberal tv personalities to media magazines to the nefarious Media Matters organization itself says: "any thought that liberals want to take guns away is nothing but âfearmongering.â Virtually all of the usual democratic suspects use this line or something close to it.
Yet Senator Dianne Feinstein, who is the acknowledged Senate democrat point person for gun control and who never leaves the issue for long, said this, on camera: <b>âIf I couldâve gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them â Mr. and Mrs. America turn âem all in â I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes werenât here.â</b>?
How can the whole liberal cabal say nobody wants to take your guns when their point person on gun control has publicly made this statement? Maybe i should say how can they make that statement and sleep at night.
And Feinstein has plenty of support for her position around the country, including in various state gov't positions.
Sorry if don't believe that that quote is real or that she is saying ALL guns.
Of course, the low discernment hysterical righty reads it as all guns. But's it's not. She was probably talking assault rifles.
Prove me wrong and I'll admit it.
Quote from Max E. Pad:
Only a moron like futures currents would believe that an elitist east coast liberal from chicago who has never even touched a gun like Obama would not take away all guns if given the chance.
Hell im sure if you asked him off the record he would tell you his socialist utopia would include an america with no guns, except for military and law enforcement. Its not as if most big city liberals hide that belief. Its not as if they arent already doing everything in their power to get rid of all guns in cities like chicago and new york, they just dont come out and say it on the campaign trail because they know it doesnt sell in middle america.
Only an ignorant, deluded, paranoid gun-nut righty would think Obama wants to take away all of the guns, or make assumptions about east coast progressives and their attitudes toward guns. He might be surprised that many of them hunt and own guns for home protection and enjoy shooting.
A Maxi-moron would believe that any gun laws are equivalent to confiscation. He would get hysterical based on lies and hyperbole from fabricated sources like Lucrum's above. He would just get madder and madder until the small amount of brain he has is totally buried under irrational rage.
Quote from Lucrum:
That document does appear to be a fake.
For the record I hate when anyone on either side of any argument fabricates anything not true.
This IS true however.
Obama Administration Signs United Nations Arms Trade Treaty
September 25, 2013
And what does the Arms Trade Treaty do?
I can't wait to hear this delusion.
Quote from futurecurrents:
Only an ignorant, deluded, paranoid gun-nut righty would think Obama wants to take away all of the guns, or make assumptions about east coast progressives and their attitudes toward guns. He might be surprised that many of them hunt and own guns for home protection and enjoy shooting.
A Maxi-moron would believe that any gun laws are equivalent to confiscation. He would get hysterical based on lies and hyperbole from fabricated sources like Lucrum's above. He would just get madder and madder until the small amount of brain he has is totally buried under irrational rage.
You really are dumber than dirt if you dont believe obama would choose to live in a society with zero guns over a society with guns if the chance legitimately presented itself.
Also your dumbass assumptions that i am a gun nut are are so far off base that somehow it actually makes you look stupider than normal.
I have never owned, fired, held, or even touched a real gun, I have no skin in this game, once again proving what a moron you are.
Really it doesnt surprise me that you lack the social skills to understand how people think, i have read that many self centered sociopaths such as yourself believe that everyone in the world thinks just like they do.
I suppose you believe obama is far to the right of dianne feinstein lol.
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/1_LaBJvI0BI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Senator Dianne Feinstein
Dianne Feinstein, the senior Senator from California, who is leading the gun control push in the Senate said in a 1995 interview, after getting her assault weapons ban passed, âIf I could have banned them all â âMr. and Mrs. America turn in your gunsâ â I would have!â Video below
Quote from fhl:
âIf I couldâve gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them â Mr. and Mrs. America turn âem all in â I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes werenât here.â</b>?
H
Quote from futurecurrents:
Sorry if don't believe that that quote is real
Prove me wrong and I'll admit it.
Yet another colossal fuckup on behalf of futurescurrents.
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/1_LaBJvI0BI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Quote from Max E. Pad:
Yet another colossal fuckup on behalf of futurescurrents.
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/1_LaBJvI0BI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
An out of context video clip means nothing. What was she talking about? I'm pretty sure it was not ALL guns.
Sorry, but seeing how you right wing nut jobs have no critical thinking skills I am not accepting your paranoid delusions just because it's what your pea-brain believes.
Yet another colossal fuckup? I have not yet. I know you are trying to divert from lucrum's colossal fuck up above and have said nothing about but really, I have not "fucked up". Perhaps you are hallucinating again.
And I'll say it again. If you think Obama wants to take everyone's guns you are fucking whacked. Period.
Nice post Mav. You added balance and reason. Well done.
Quote from Maverick74:
Piezoe, you don't really believe this shit do you? First of all, let's make some corrections to this article before we get started. The author of that article is primarily talking about libertarians, not republicans. And most libertarians do NOT consider themselves conservative. Which pretty much invalidates the entire article. The conservative implies a cultural system of beliefs which most libertarians do not adhere to or at least want the government to adhere to.
My next point is, yes, libertarians have a lot of conspiracy people under their tent. Part of that is the fact that most libertarians do not consider themselves to be a member of a group and follow the logic of group think so they are naturally suspicious of all power, all collective groups, and both the right and the left.
The irony of course is that the "conservative mind" as the author calls it, is probably the complete opposite of what he describes. Most "conservatives" are apathetic, not interested, unmotivated, etc. It's precisely the reason why the Alex Jones of the world and the Ron Pauls and even the tea party rose to prominence. They broke away from the uncaring, apathetic, typical conservative.
Next point, just regarding who has more conspiracy theorists in terms of center right vs center left, I would say the left has faaaaaar more. I think it started during the Vietnam war. The whole counter culture movement and the distrust of government started on the left, not the right. Then you have the assassination of JFK and RFK, Martin Luther King and the resignation of Richard Nixon. All these events became the genesis of the left wing conspiratorial mind. Fast forward to the present time. You have liberals that believe George H Bush was involved in bringing cocaine into this country and into the black communities to kill off blacks. You have lefties who believe AIDS was created by republicans in government to kill of blacks and gays. You have the left who features prominently in the 9/11 truther movement. They actually believe Bush jr blew up the WTC and orchestrated the entire event. Then move forward to the occupy wall street movement. Pretty much conspiracy central. Oh and btw, when Bush was in power (jr) they firmly believed he would start another war before elections in 2008 and declare a state of emergency and cancel the upcoming elections. I could go on and on and on.
Now, are there conspiracies on the right? Sure, there are. But honestly, I dismiss a lot of them as simply a hatred for all things Obama. Center right people are passive by nature and generally follow the status quo. That's why lefties are out in full force protesting everything under the sun from genetically modified foods to war for oil. It's never ending. It's in their nature to have extreme beliefs. Funny how this article was written now and not when Bush was in power because he would have been hard pressed to find anyone on the right believing in conspiracies and the left would have overwhelmed him with case studies.
So to sum up, this article was so far off the mark, I don't know how it got passed the editor. Please feel free to debate me on anything I posted above, you know all that shit is true. Which makes me wonder how you could be so obtuse to post it.
Sixty-three percent of registered voters in the U.S. buy into at least one political conspiracy theory, according to results from a recent Fairleigh Dickinson University PublicMindPoll. The nationwide survey of registered voters asked Americans to evaluate four different political conspiracy theories: 56 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Republicans say that at least one is likely true. This includes 36 percent who think that President Obama is hiding information about his background and early life, 25 percent who think that the government knew about 9/11 in advance, and 19 percent who think the 2012 Presidential election was stolen.Generally, the more people know about current events, the less likely they are to believe in conspiracy theories â but not among Republicans, where more knowledge leads to greater belief in political conspiracies.
However, the relationship between current events knowledge and belief in conspiracy theories is conditional on partisanship. Among Democrats, each question answered correctly reduces the likelihood of endorsing at least one of the conspiracy theories by seven points.Among independents, each additional question reduces it by two points. For Republicans,though, each additional question answered correctly tends to increase belief in at least one of the theories by two points.âThere are several possible explanations for this,â said Cassino. âIt could be that more conspiracy-minded Republicans seek out more information, or that the information some Republicans seek out just tends to reinforce these myths.âBelief in these conspiracies is higher among young African-Americans than whites. For instance, 59 percent of African-Americans think that Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened, and 75 percent of African-Americans think at least one of the theories is likely true, compared with 62 percent of whites.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/120815791/Fairleigh-Dickinson-poll-on-conspiracy-theories
In other words, nut-job righties get so worked-up that they obsess on political information.
However, the relationship between current events knowledge and belief in conspiracy theories is conditional on partisanship. Among Democrats, each question answered correctly reduces the likelihood of endorsing at least one of the conspiracy theories by seven points.Among independents, each additional question reduces it by two points. For Republicans,though, each additional question answered correctly tends to increase belief in at least one of the theories by two points.âThere are several possible explanations for this,â said Cassino. âIt could be that more conspiracy-minded Republicans seek out more information, or that the information some Republicans seek out just tends to reinforce these myths.âBelief in these conspiracies is higher among young African-Americans than whites. For instance, 59 percent of African-Americans think that Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened, and 75 percent of African-Americans think at least one of the theories is likely true, compared with 62 percent of whites.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/120815791/Fairleigh-Dickinson-poll-on-conspiracy-theories
In other words, nut-job righties get so worked-up that they obsess on political information.