Consensus on C Tomorrow

Quote from bond tr4der:

I assume the $20 billion infusion @ 8% is preferreds.

I'm sure it is - that is how government has been injecting capital. Instead of using TARP money to buy MBS - they are allowing companies to issue preferred stock and buying it from them.
 
Quote from athlonmank8:

just reached a deal on Citi apparently.

300 billion "backstop" on Bad Assets

20 billion infusion @ 8%

not sure on equity stake OR management changes.

and shareholders get bailout
 
Are you guys not reading the original text?

"As a fee for this [backstop] arrangement, Citigroup will issue preferred shares to the Treasury and FDIC."

"In addition, Treasury will invest $20 billion in Citigroup from the Troubled Asset Relief Program in exchange for preferred stock with an 8% dividend to the Treasury."

Double-dilution whammy.

The "backstop" wording is...curious. Will protect against "unusually large" losses.

Here's the term sheet...

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/bcreg20081123a1.pdf
 
Hmmm...

So government gets $20 billion in preferreds for injection @ 8% and more preferreds for the right to access government funds.

So a good guess would be the government owns 79.9% of Citi? Similar to Fannie, Freddie, AIG, and whatever else we nationalized recently.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

Are you guys not reading the original text?





Double-dilution whammy.

The "backstop" wording is...curious. Will protect against "unusually large" losses.

Here's the term sheet...

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/bcreg20081123a1.pdf

their earnings will be lower because of the preferred dividend. but its not a bad deal, they didnt even had warrants. its not really dilluting the common stock, its just $1.6B a year insurance program. The stock price was almost surely expecting something worse. I think C opens a good deal higher
 
$2.2B insurance policy - there are two sets of preferred totaling $28B - same 8% divie on each.

Dividend on common is gone.

What a stock does short-term on events like this is anybody's guess - but I can see precious little fundamental reason to hold the common at all. Bonds, other preferred etc, quite possibly, but I would have no interest in the common.
 
Quote from Daal:

Nevermind, just noticed they had 10% warrants and destroyed the dividend

Divvy was already priced in. regardless of what the market thinks, divvy's are zero-sum anyways.
 
Quote from athlonmank8:

Divvy was already priced in. regardless of what the market thinks, divvy's are zero-sum anyways.

yes the stock should still go up. 10% dilution seems generous
 
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