Quote from Doubter:
Do you realize that Pres. Trumans' approval was at 22% during some of the 2nd World War.
Lincolns' wasn't much better during the Civil War.
By the way Isreals' Ohlmert is at 7% . He invaded another country and withdrew and still isn't popular.
All these leaders were piled on as is GWB but I think that says more about the pilers-on than the leader.
_____________________________________________Quote from james_bond_3rd:
There are several factual errors in your post.
Truman's approval was at 87% after FDR's death and before the end of WWII. The dip to 23% occured during the Korean War, when he fired Gen. Douglas MacArthur. There are two caveats with this. First, although MacArthur was immensely popular at the time - thus firing him was extremely unpopular, it appears that Truman made the right decision. That's why history has become more kind to him. Second, opinion polls 50 years ago are less reliable than they are today. Remember "Dewy Wins?"
Today, I don't see in any way that Bush can redeem himself. History is not likely to change its verdict on Iraq 50 years from now.
__________________________________________________Quote from libertad:
Excellent Commentary...
Doubter Wrote...
You may be correct but personally I am not a big fan of "conventional wisdom". I have profited greatly over years by ignoring the crowd mentality.
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This is very true...as I have done the same in mnay instances....
What is interesting is that it took THE CROWD to vote Bush into office....
And on the other hand...if everyone thought of themselves as not voting in the direction of conventional wisdom...Ralph Nader, Perot , Gore and many others would have been president instead...
Also ....often is the case that the crowd may be right in many circumstances...
There is a big difference between general common sense and pseudo intellectualism...
With regards to Bush...it is literally a no brainer...
Quote from libertad:
...With regards to Bush...it is literally a no brainer...
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the "literal" reference until a proper autopsy is performed in due course. WMDs may not have been the only thing missing during GWB's reign.Quote from james_bond_3rd:
George F. Will would take issue with your usage of "literally." According to Mr. Will, your post "would be rejected by a reasonably demanding high school teacher."
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Quote from james_bond_3rd:
Bush knows how hard it is because he, "visits families that die."
I hope all families stay away from his visits.