Get real. IBM has always set "the" standard. As far as AMD quality control, Dirk Meyer designed the Athlon chips (genius may ring a bell ) and Hector Ruiz came from Motorola because of his quality control and execution expertise. Intel sets the standard for ASP's. Maybe you don't remember this " After being stirred up by an article on The Inquirer, Intel has issued details that their US$3,692 900MHz PIII Xeon with 2MB of L2 cache is not being sold, and has not been sold since April--one month after it was released this year. A customer found a glitch which Intel verified, and a new version will not be ready until August, capping the PIII Xeon (with 2MB L2 cache, quad processor capability) at 700MHz. I can't see how this will not affect Intel's bottom line this quarter, but so far they haven't warned. This recall is the latest in a series of debacles that makes me wonder if the Itanium chip and the new P4 Xeon will be able to handle it in the marketplace. As chips have more transistors, it gets harder to test them. Is Intel just being really sloppy, or will AMD have similar troubles once it tries to up the L2 cache size of its chips to large levels? AMD had planned to do that in late 2000 with the "Mustang" chip, but instead decided to ditch that effort. Until late 2002, I wouldn't even expect AMD to have to worry about multiprocessing issues with big-cache chips, as they won't have any (just the Athlon MP with 256K of L2 cache). Maybe Intel can just blow off the whole 900MHz PIII Xeon problem. They succeeded in keeping it from the public for three months already." Quality control issues with AMD? NONE since the aforementioned people have joined the team to design and implement the Athlon and beyond. You should really get your shit straight before offering an opinion and trying to make them facts as some people here might believe you.