Compliance to "diversity" and "affirmative action" cost 4% of GDP each year.

[OPTIONAL777]

A black horse is black.

A white horse is white.

They are different colors.

Gee...

Does how the horse is raised change its color?

No.

Does how the horse is raised change the way in which the horse behaves with other horses and humans?

Yes.

"I never once said that minorities should not be able to organize and pursue their own group interests."

Workers are in the minority when it comes to decisions of wages and benefits...so you must favor the right of workers to organize and pursue their own group interests.

Thanks.

Quote from phenomena:

LOL!! You're a psychic too?

Yes, non whites are different from non whites. Just as blacks are different from non blacks, asians different from non asians, mestizos different from non mestizos, indians different from non indians, so forth. That's really irrefutable, as we can observe that there are differences, and science reinforces that there are differences. You might have noticed that two white parents generally tend to give birth to white children, and two black parents tend to give birth to black children. Race is a biological reality.

I "mean that in a negative way"? Really? Is that what your crystal ball told you? Why is it that you are trying to presume what I mean? You are putting words in my mouth, and making assertions on my behalf which I never made. Kind of sad that that's all you have to desperately try to make some kind of point here.

Not only that, you went a step further to psychically divine that I would "re-establish some sort of caste system"... LOL!!! What a joke. It's really sad that these imaginary concoctions are all you can muster to try to make a point. Nevermind that you avoid addressing all of my points, you are left with making up imaginary conspiracies to try to make points of your own. I challenge you to show me one post of mine which advocates or suggests some sort of "caste system".

How is obama destroying the nation? Well, socialized healthcare, "stimulus packages", and 2x gdp/debt ratio are a start. It's just your anti white knee jerk reaction to paint any criticism of obama as "racist". As I previously said, Obama's policies are my problem with him. Of course you wont believe that, because it doesn't fit your racist conspiracy world view.

Also, it's you who construes everything which is pro-white, as being anti minority. I never once said that minorities should not be able to organize and pursue their own group interests. What I said is that white people should have the same freedom. Do you have a problem with that? What are you? Some kind of racist or something?

LOL!! What is "white collar racism"? You can't even tell me what "racism" means, yet I'm a "white collar racist"? Gtfo.

I'm sorry that you are so ashamed of your race and/or ethnic group that you want to pretend it doesn't exist. Sorry that you are that ashamed of your identity. That must be a heavy burden to bare.

Because of your personal issues, the mere notion of an ethnocentric white person, or white people having the same rights to organize and pursue group interests makes you boil with hatred and resentment for them. Sorry, but your anti white PC gig is about up. EQUAL rights, not special privileges...

You have no defense of your premise, and fail to address, much less actually refute my premise. You simply ignore points you don't like and then proceed to shout "racist". For some reason you guys think ad hominem is a valid approach to an argument.

 

[phenomena]

White and black horses are determined by way of their hair color, that's a poor analogy. Black and white horses can be found in many breeds of horse. Kind of like black hair in humans.

One breed of horse

another breed of horse:

Yep, no genetic differences in here... LOL!!!

I guess these horses have these very salient differences in many observable (hereditary) traits because of each horses respective "culture", right? LOL!!! I guess culture is also genetic, since large horses bred with large horses produce large horses, and small horses bred with other small horses produce.... YOU GUESSED IT, more small horses!! LOL!!! Nope, no biodiversity exists!! In humans OR in horses... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

In fact, why don't we start an advocacy group for the small horses. Because I have noticed NONE of these small horses competing in horse races. Now, they say the small horse breeds can't run as fast as the large horse breeds, but that's a racist lie... I mean, they're all horses!! So if the small ones can't run as fast as the large ones, it much be because of "breedism" or they don't get enough encouragement, or the have been oppressed by the large horses... These small horses need a voice!! We must not stop until there are just as many small horse breeds winning horse races as there are large horse breeds!! LOL!!

Look at these victims of racism!!

"Worker" is not a racial distinction, and is thus not analogous to this discussion. Further, workers are NOT the minority, but the majority. Either way, this analogy is not only broken, but irrelevant.

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

A black horse is black.

A white horse is white.

They are different colors.

Gee...

Does how the horse is raised change its color?

No.

Does how the horse is raised change the way in which the horse behaves with other horses and humans?

Yes.

"I never once said that minorities should not be able to organize and pursue their own group interests."

Workers are in the minority when it comes to decisions of wages and benefits...so you must favor the right of workers to organize and pursue their own group interests.

Thanks.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

White tall man:

<img src=http://hungrygerald.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tallest-People.jpg>

White small man:

<img src=http://jokes.blogsavy.com/files/2009/01/midget.jpg>

Black tall man:

<img src=http://media.hamptonroads.com/media/content/pilotonline/2007/11/1107tall400x400.jpg>

Black small man:

<img src=http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/tony-cox.jpg>

All the same species, homosapien.

"Worker" is not a racial distinction, and is thus not analogous to this discussion. Further, workers are NOT the minority, but the majority."

Never suggested worker is a racial category, but a minority group when it comes to money and power. As such, the minority group in business when it comes to money and power, have the right to gather together, organize as a group, to collectively work toward better wages and benefits.

Quote from phenomena:

White and black horses are determined by way of their hair color, that's a poor analogy. Black and white horses can be found in many breeds of horse. Kind of like black hair in humans.

One breed of horse

another breed of horse:

Yep, no genetic differences in here... LOL!!!

I guess these horses have these very salient differences in many observable (hereditary) traits because of each horses respective "culture", right? LOL!!! I guess culture is also genetic, since large horses bred with large horses produce large horses, and small horses bred with other small horses produce.... YOU GUESSED IT, more small horses!! LOL!!! Nope, no biodiversity exists!! In humans OR in horses... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

In fact, why don't we start an advocacy group for the small horses. Because I have noticed NONE of these small horses competing in horse races. Now, they say the small horse breeds can't run as fast as the large horse breeds, but that's a racist lie... I mean, they're all horses!! So if the small ones can't run as fast as the large ones, it much be because of "breedism" or they don't get enough encouragement, or the have been oppressed by the large horses... These small horses need a voice!! We must not stop until there are just as many small horse breeds winning horse races as there are large horse breeds!! LOL!!

Look at these victims of racism!!

"Worker" is not a racial distinction, and is thus not analogous to this discussion. Further, workers are NOT the minority, but the majority. Either way, this analogy is not only broken, but irrelevant.

 

[phenomena]

Indeed height is not a distinguishable racial trait between euro americans and african americans. There are, however, other, hereditary, genetically based racial differences between them. Amongst the two breads of horses, size is a hereditary racial trait. So, this analogy was really as shitty as the "worker" analogy...

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

White tall man:

<img src=http://hungrygerald.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tallest-People.jpg>

White small man:

<img src=http://jokes.blogsavy.com/files/2009/01/midget.jpg>

Black tall man:

<img src=http://media.hamptonroads.com/media/content/pilotonline/2007/11/1107tall400x400.jpg>

Black small man:

<img src=http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/tony-cox.jpg>

All the same species, homosapien.

"Worker" is not a racial distinction, and is thus not analogous to this discussion. Further, workers are NOT the minority, but the majority."

Never suggested worker is a racial category, but a minority group when it comes to money and power. As such, the minority group in business when it comes to money and power, have the right to gather together, organize as a group, to collectively work toward better wages and benefits.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Never suggested worker is a racial category, but a minority group when it comes to money and power. As such, the minority group in business when it comes to money and power, have the right to gather together, organize as a group, to collectively work toward better wages and benefits.

What a useless bunch of stupid gobbledygook.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

There are distinct traits between workers, some have to do with genetics, and others have to do with work ethic, training, reliability, honesty, etc. which are not genetic.

In any case, workers are the minority when it comes time to negotiate a contract, so allowing the minority group, i.e. the workers to collectively organize and bargain seems quite fair, and to discriminate against this basic right to assemble collectively (be it at a church or a labor union meeting) and then work together to achieve a common goal is American.

Quote from phenomena:

Indeed height is not a distinguishable racial trait between euro americans and african americans. There are, however, other, hereditary, genetically based racial differences between them. Amongst the two breads of horses, size is a hereditary racial trait. So, this analogy was really as shitty as the "worker" analogy...

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Why not try offering an informed opinion for a change?

Wait, that would take being informed and a thought process that can make for a reasonable discussion...

Never mind.

Quote from Lucrum:

What a useless bunch of stupid gobbledygook.

 

[phenomena]

I have no problem with the existence of unions. The only thing I don't agree with is them extorting companies into not being able to hire non union workers. I don't, in principal, disagree with the existence of unions. They do, however, engage in such extortion. That's really my major problem with them. They should be free to determine which conditions under which they will or will not work, but they should be legally prohibited from determining who else the company can hire.

Either way, that's irrelevant, which is precisely why you are bringing it up. You are trying to obfuscate the thread to draw attention away from it's actual topic, since you've had your ass handed to you in that debate, and have way out. Don't worry, it's really not noticeable or anything... LOL!!

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

There are distinct traits between workers, some have to do with genetics, and others have to do with work ethic, training, reliability, honesty, etc. which are not genetic.

In any case, workers are the minority when it comes time to negotiate a contract, so allowing the minority group, i.e. the workers to collectively organize and bargain seems quite fair, and to discriminate against this basic right to assemble collectively (be it at a church or a labor union meeting) and then work together to achieve a common goal is American.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Why not try offering an informed opinion for a change?

I will IF you will, but we know you won't.

Wait, that would take being informed and a thought process that can make for a reasonable discussion...

Who do you think you're fooling anyway? You ARE a Troll. You have no desire for a "reasonable discussion". You simply want to argue for the sake of arguing. Now, what did I do with the link to your goat fucker thread?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Please, just put me on ignore.

Why would any reasonable person with a life, call someone a troll, then continue to engage them?

I engage you because it is like shooting fish in a barrel, in under a week I exposed you as a moral relativist, a hypocrite, got you schooled in biology, and got you so pissed off that the famous "I'm a limo driver in the sky" nonsense.

Quote from Lucrum:

I will IF you will, but we know you won't.

Who do you think you're fooling anyway? You ARE a Troll. You have no desire for a "reasonable discussion". You simply want to argue for the sake of arguing. Now, what did I do with the link to your goat fucker thread?