Company is Banning Trading from Work?

Quote from jinxu:

@zedDoubleNaught and @clacy

That's why I said "most". There are some good jobs out there but they are few. Most people I've met have hated their jobs. Are soulless. And try to do the bare minimum to get by. You might not have consider that most people I've met are younger than 50.

Oh I see what you mean, sorry for giving a lecture. To qualify my post, sure it's easy to talk about how great a good fulfilling job is and wanting to work at one; but then it's a different story getting hired and accepted into one.
If nothing else, if you show an attitude of trying and making the boss's life easier, the boss will be more likely to give a good reference for you, hopefully to a good job. I had your attitude at an early job and performed egregiously, and later had to hope nobody would call them to ask about me. I would have been better off quitting, a bad reference is very difficult to overcome, not to mention the hurt feelings of the other people involved, the worst part.
But enough of my story -- to sum up my recommendation, if you are interested: if you don't want to quit and the boss says no laptop, give her some slack and say no problem, and politely apologize for bringing it before. Imagine she's not the boss telling you what to do, but a fellow soulless toiler hoping for reduced difficulty and misery in her day. If you are one less problem, she'll appreciate it, and you can be proud of helping someone.
Second recommendation: get some drinking buddies to commiserate, and do something better like watch the game or whatever fun stuff you like to do (I've usually found this has the best results). I hope things work out.
 
Quote from jinxu:

I got an email recently that people are no longer allowed to bring laptops to work. It's an obvious response to my boss catching me on my laptop and assuming I'm not working when in reality I was using a few seconds to glance at the charts. But I don't think I can argue this.

Technically, I don't need the job but it helps pass the time and alleviate some of the pressure to make money for rent and bills. In response I'm now considering quitting as my job is during trading hours and I've missed some good moves due to the job too.

I could try swing trading as an alternative.

So, does everyone think it's time to quit? Or maybe switch to swing trading? What other ideas are there that I can do?

Also, my boss is female. Don't know if that's important. Just mentioning it.

Also, it's a small company with no opportunities to move up.

Trade on the Forex, it's "open" 24h a day.
 
Quote from altoid:

Do people really look at charts? LMFAO !

charts are something that traders use to help make trading decisions.
There's lots of info about them on google.
 
Would anyone mind commenting on their experience/posting a chart of Asian market equity index futures they trade while working a 9-5? Seems like the best but also least known option for me personally compared to getting up in the middle of the night or trading from the can at work...

BD
 
jobs are not easy to come by these days but I guess it all depends on the line of work u r in; jobs #s and rates released monthly are BS; just ask anyone that has been out of a job for the last 5 years and continues to look.

trading and working a diff job versus just trading as sole income is not the same. look at it the other way. are you sure trading alleviates the pressure of making money for rent and bills or is it the other way around? the mind is very powerful, that is all i am going to say.

good luck to you if you decide to take the plunge.

Quote from jinxu:

I got an email recently that people are no longer allowed to bring laptops to work. It's an obvious response to my boss catching me on my laptop and assuming I'm not working when in reality I was using a few seconds to glance at the charts. But I don't think I can argue this.

Technically, I don't need the job but it helps pass the time and alleviate some of the pressure to make money for rent and bills. In response I'm now considering quitting as my job is during trading hours and I've missed some good moves due to the job too.

I could try swing trading as an alternative.

So, does everyone think it's time to quit? Or maybe switch to swing trading? What other ideas are there that I can do?

Also, my boss is female. Don't know if that's important. Just mentioning it.

Also, it's a small company with no opportunities to move up.
 
Quote from BobbiDigital:

Would anyone mind commenting on their experience/posting a chart of Asian market equity index futures they trade while working a 9-5? Seems like the best but also least known option for me personally compared to getting up in the middle of the night or trading from the can at work...

BD
This is from my experience when I was working the night shifts at my company and traded the US market after works. Don't do it. The tiredness and sleepiness from working will cause you to make mistakes and lose money. I've tried and it has never worked out for me. When I switched to day shifts and started getting better sleep my trading improve.

Quote from JB3:

Is this a government job? :D
nope
 
Quote from mastacoli71:

jobs are not easy to come by these days but I guess it all depends on the line of work u r in; jobs #s and rates released monthly are BS; just ask anyone that has been out of a job for the last 5 years and continues to look.

trading and working a diff job versus just trading as sole income is not the same. look at it the other way. are you sure trading alleviates the pressure of making money for rent and bills or is it the other way around? the mind is very powerful, that is all i am going to say.

good luck to you if you decide to take the plunge.
You mean good jobs. I've seen the data. Most job created were minimum wage job. Most job lost were good paying jobs. There are more jobs according to the employment data but they are just shit jobs.

I'm sure that's the trend. In engineering which is my field, there's a 10 year lifespans before the company start laying you off and replacing you with younger cheaper workers. Everyone in my company is under 40. Which is alarming. Everyone also seem to be in denial.
 
Alot of people are attacking OPs behavior, but I can completely understand his perspective. Until you have worked for a corporation that doesn't care about you and makes blatant bad decisions (for business and employees) day after day, year after year, you will not understand where he is coming from.

It's not a matter of him wanting to screw the company or feeling entitled, but rather a indifference towards the company. Indifference doesn't happen over night unless you truly never cared about your work in the first place.

Corporations today, and probably for decades, have forgotten how to take care of their worker bees. Just look at the disconnect between CEO salary vs. employee salary/pay structure. Look at the diminishing pensions and health benefits. Look at the layoffs and salary cuts. Look at multiple tiers/armies of management hired "manage" hand full of worker bees. Look at the wringing of employees daily. Look at the "exploitation"/inconsideration of the employed created by excess unemployed work force.

Of course, this could all just be me projecting my experiences, but I have seen and experienced all of the above myself since my first career job starting in 2008. Whether contract bound or not, good employer/employee relationship is based on taking care of each other. Employer pays you to get certain work done and you agree to do it at a certain price. The certain price typically involves cost of living increase, vacation, on the job learning, etc. Not as an entitlement, but as a gesture of appreciation. Of course, if you don't want to "appreciate" your employees, the result is people like OP. It's not entitlement to want a little more money to adjust for higher cost of living, its not entitlement to want a few extra days of vacation to get your mind off work for an extra day or two, its not entitlement to want to grow and learn, its not entitlement to "expect" your employer to care about you... Being traders, we all know that at the end of the day the company wants higher profits, but at what costs are they going to do that? Usually for poorly run companies, it's at the cost of the employee.

Appreciating your employee is not a new trend...it is just a "human" want/need. It relates to pretty much any kind of relationship. Show enough neglect and the weeds will appear...
 
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