Common Sense Lieberman

I don't really understand what Lieberman's up to. I think he feels he has a real shot at getting the nod from his pal McCain to run as VP. But this kind of socialistic overregulation will be anathema to McCain's economic advsors like Gramm. Maybe it is payback for hedgies who backed his opponent in the democrat primary. Maybe he is just playing for the media.

Who knows? It's a very stupid idea though from a guy who has a lot of dumb ideas. No wonder he and McCain are buds.
 
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I don't really understand what Lieberman's up to. I think he feels he has a real shot at getting the nod from his pal McCain to run as VP. But this kind of socialistic overregulation will be anathema to McCain's economic advsors like Gramm. Maybe it is payback for hedgies who backed his opponent in the democrat primary. Maybe he is just playing for the media.

Who knows? It's a very stupid idea though from a guy who has a lot of dumb ideas. No wonder he and McCain are buds.
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Clearly, the little Jew who got left out of the PNAC team is vying for some political position with McCain the dumb fucking dolt..

I'm a hebe so I can say that..

But MAN, Lieberman makes me wanna join the Ku Klux Klan..(to quote Chris Rock)
 
Quote from Sparohok:

The futures market participants getting blamed for high commodity prices here are commodity index funds. They really are long-only, they never short and only sell to roll over into the next month. I don't think anyone is blaming the true speculators, who are still subject to position limits and generally don't take long term positions.

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I see. Thank you for your thoughtful answer.

I just don't know much about the working of these commodity index funds. Could you go a little further in explaining why commodity index funds are always long? Knowing that markets go up and down aren't they trying to catch the both directions? You mean they are just going long trusting the natural tendancy of prices to increase?

Thanks again
 
Olbermann had his Enron loophole segment:

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Partisan of course but does anyone really believe the price of oil is this high solely on supply and demand? I remember the blackouts in California, during Enron's reign of terror, were blamed on everything from the dot com boom to Gray Davis not building more generators.
 
Quote from Landis82:

You obviously are unaware of the Enron "loophole" that Phil Gramm placed into Energy De-Regulation Legislation ( without even a committee hearing ) at the 11th hour in December of 2000 that allowed for the creation of un-regulated electronic exchanges/platforms to trade energy futures contracts such as West Texas Intermediate without any position limits or supervision by the CFTC.

I guess you're "ok" with the ICE and DME trading WTI without any CFTC supervision, leaving the trading supervision of those WTI contracts up to the good people of Dubai and Great Britain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY

Yeah, that works for me.
NOT!
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I am familiar with the Enron loophole Landis.
 
Also buddy did O'Reiily ever once mention the Enron loophole or anything like that? No he certainly didn't. He is a fucking panderer deluxe and it appears as if I've hit a soft spot with you!
 
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Also buddy did O'Reiily ever once mention the Enron loophole or anything like that? No he certainly didn't. He is a fucking panderer deluxe and it appears as if I've hit a soft spot with you!
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No, you haven't hit a "soft" spot with me whatsoever. I'm really not one to get involved in the political "pissing-matches" here on ET with people who have large Egos. Been there, done that. Years ago on ET.

As for O'Reilly, I don't really care for the guy ( or Fox News ) for that matter.

That having been said, I do believe that he mentioned the lack of CFTC oversight . . . and that is a general way of dumbing things down for the viewing audience and pointing to the ICE and DME without having to "educate" the viewer about the specifics.

The Enron "loop-hole" is a result of NO CFTC oversight over these exchanges. O'Reilly didn't have to mention the "loop-hole". I believe he touched upon lack of CFTC regulation and transparency.
 
Fair enough, I don't like to argue either. I'm way to busy losing alot of money today to concentrate on this :) Anyways I guess the clip I saww mentioned nothing of that but it was a clip and not a whole segment. I do agree that "dark pools" are firly intriguing and something worth looking into and studying more.

Have a great weekend
 
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Fair enough, I don't like to argue either. I'm way to busy losing alot of money today to concentrate on this :) Anyways I guess the clip I saww mentioned nothing of that but it was a clip and not a whole segment. I do agree that "dark pools" are firly intriguing and something worth looking into and studying more.

Have a great weekend
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Thanks, you too my friend.
It was a difficult week, for sure!
:)
 
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