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common creationist claim.you cant get something from nothing,so god did it.
- Thread starter Free Thinker
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Quote from Free Thinker:
It is always amusing to hear theists proclaim that they dont believe in evolution because it sounds too complicated yet they will readily believe that some grey haired old deity in the sky just spoke and everything we see today popped up from nothing.
--Freethinker
The majority of theists agree there is some evolution.
You and stu are such trolls. You can't even comprehend the science which I have presented... like this information from 2009 from the 2009 Nobel Prize winner.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...ak-and-09-10-05
Szostak: Absolutely! I mean what we're interested in is figuring out plausible pathways for the origin of life. It would be great to have even one complete plausible pathway, but what we find often is when we figure out how one little step might have worked, it gives us ideas, and then we end up with ultimately two or three or more different ways in which a particular step could have happened. So that makes us think the overall process might be more robust. So, you know, ultimately it would be nice, I think, if it turned out that there were multiple plausible pathways; then, of course, we might never know what really happened on the early Earth.
Quote from Free Thinker:
It is always amusing to hear theists proclaim that they dont believe in evolution because it sounds too complicated yet they will readily believe that some grey haired old deity in the sky just spoke and everything we see today popped up from nothing.
--Freethinker
What does evolution have to do with cosmology?
And how is a self generating universe(out of nothing) any less contrived than some old deity speaking it into existence (out of nothing) ?
Quote from jem:
The majority of theists agree there is some evolution.
You and stu are such trolls. You can't even comprehend the science which I have presented... like this information from 2009 from the 2009 Nobel Prize winner.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...ak-and-09-10-05
Szostak: Absolutely! I mean what we're interested in is figuring out plausible pathways for the origin of life. It would be great to have even one complete plausible pathway, but what we find often is when we figure out how one little step might have worked, it gives us ideas, and then we end up with ultimately two or three or more different ways in which a particular step could have happened. So that makes us think the overall process might be more robust. So, you know, ultimately it would be nice, I think, if it turned out that there were multiple plausible pathways; then, of course, we might never know what really happened on the early Earth.
and yet only 5.5% of the biologists of the National Academy of Sciences believe in God.
and only about 10% of the entire body of 2100 NAS scientists believe in God.
Quote from jem:
The majority of theists agree there is some evolution.
You and stu are such trolls. You can't even comprehend the science which I have presented... like this information from 2009 from the 2009 Nobel Prize winner.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...ak-and-09-10-05
Szostak: Absolutely! I mean what we're interested in is figuring out plausible pathways for the origin of life. It would be great to have even one complete plausible pathway, but what we find often is when we figure out how one little step might have worked, it gives us ideas, and then we end up with ultimately two or three or more different ways in which a particular step could have happened. So that makes us think the overall process might be more robust. So, you know, ultimately it would be nice, I think, if it turned out that there were multiple plausible pathways; then, of course, we might never know what really happened on the early Earth.
What is there not to comprehend. Szostak is potentially discovering many plausible pathways , not one single one, for the origin of life.
How does calling people names then defeating your own very silly God the creator argument make you in any way right.?
Oh of course I forgot. You troll this out without any idea about what you're doing.
this is a rather telling statement on your level of critical thinking ability.Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
And how is a self generating universe(out of nothing) any less contrived than some old deity speaking it into existence (out of nothing) ?
in your mind magic is just as possible as natural processes.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
Quote from Free Thinker:
religious creationists are fond of using the argument that the universe could not have come about without a god because you cant get something from nothing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
Yes, God of the Gaps, they call this. Anything we cannot yet comprehend comes from a higher power, sadly, and the bottom of it all we have not come that far psychologically from our ancestors who worshiped lightening.
Quote from Free Thinker:
For three hundred years now, the Christian astronomer has known that his Diety didn't make the stars in those tremendous six days; but the Christian astronomer doesn't enlarge upon that detail. Neither does the priest.
Samuel Clemens- Letters from the Earth
FT, there is hard science, and there is the science of manipulation, otherwise known as psychology and sometimes sociology. Religion falls under the latter. Life is hard, people need an out. Further, death is unavoidable. If one is dealt a bad hand in life, it is good for society to perpetuate the belief that you will get yours after you die. Keeps down the riots.
I admire your tenacity, but make no mistake, if you convince even one person here of the obviousness of this truth it will not be before they have died a mental death and been reborn.