Coming to terms with my feelings. Long, sorry.

Regarding 2020, I didn't like either candidate. So I am OK with how it turned out. As I have said multiple times. But amazing blast from the past! Your necromancy skills are elite!
Why would someone bring up your 10 year old family dirty laundry? Hopefully your parents sent you one of those regifted Xmas fruitcakes for the next couple of years.
 
Why would someone bring up your 10 year old family dirty laundry? Hopefully your parents sent you one of those regifted Xmas fruitcakes for the next couple of years.

This is the Politics section. People try to do dirty things all the time. I don't mind, honestly. Keeps me honest.
 
Regarding 2020, I didn't like either candidate. So I am OK with how it turned out. As I have said multiple times. But amazing blast from the past! Your necromancy skills are elite!

I found your old post searching for something else.

I will surround myself with like-minded, conservative thinkers who are preparing for the collapse of our financial well being. This will likely result in me becoming more extreme, but I don't care. It's us versus them for me, now.
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I will accelerate my project of solace in the Smoky Mountains, and that will serve as solace should I need it. And I will stock pile all the necessary things to keep that place sustainable.

Escape to the Mountains is a done deal! I've used that retreat for a while now.

I have talked to quite a few Conservatives who sound like you and have taken steps to be prepared. Several fundamental weaknesses to their plans come to mind:

1. Believing they and their family will be safe in a remote location.

Unless you have a compound with thirty to one hundred people, you will be vulnerable to roving hoards looking for resources. While you should be friendly with your neighbors, any large group of people can overwhelm a family and a neighbor or two defending their home. You might want to have plat maps of properties surrounding your remote location in a 30 to 60 mile radius. Learn as much as you can about you neighbors.



2. Believing They will be able to get to their remote location during a time of crisis.

You live and work probably about 9 hours away from your safe place. If you use the interstate system, you will either have to go through Atlanta or deal with I-95 traffic. Further, you will have to refuel enroute. Who is to say the grid will be up, and along with it, gas pumps, should there be a real crisis?



3. Waiting until it is obvious before leaving for remote location.

It is expensive to be a victim to false alarms. This is why we wait until we are sure there is a confirmed need before taking action. Although trader’s watching the market tend to have situational awareness, identifying moves that don’t seem to make sense given their current understanding of context, certain events should be monitored or even triggers for taking immediate and decisive action. Top of mind, any of the following are potentially actionable, especially when combined with another event: Scheduled war games and loss of communication, Chinese invade Taiwan, Russia invades Ukraine, North Korea invades South Korea, a capital ship is sunk, diplomatic relations between major powers are broken off, trial balloons concerning reinstating the draft in the US or elsewhere are floated, to name a new.



4. Not prepared to leave at a moment’s notice.

Quite possibly, a real crisis will not give you time to pack up stuff. By the way, keeping a container of gasoline in your vehicle is extraordinarily dangerous.



5. Not planning contigencies for loss of communication and family member separations.

This is the toughest to plan, but nothing is worse than time being lost going to and from frequently visted locations while searching for each other.



6. Not learning secondary and tertiary skills in depth.

In a real crisis, resources will be scarce, including professional services. So while general knowledge of a broad range of subjects is important, having solid specific knowledge can open up doors and more.



7. Not having insufficient supplies or capital equipment.

Although a crisis can last a generation or even a lifetime, if you have capital equipment and two to three years of supplies, you should have enough time to be able to adjust to a new reality.
 
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1. Believing they and their family will be safe in a remote location.

Unless you have a compound with thirty to one hundred people, you will be vulnerable to roving hoards looking for resources. While you should be friendly with your neighbors, any large group of people can overwhelm a family and a neighbor or two defending their home...

I disagree. You need only a handful with the right equipment...

 
I disagree. You need only a handful with the right equipment...


Determining the location of, and taking out a sniper with a small group is not easy. How about being in a crossfire situation against two snipers? Probably four of the target group would be dead before someone yells “Oh shit!”.
 
I think it is sad people are disowning members of family or refusing to visit them because of political discussions or who they voted for. That means the family ties were never that strong to begin with and you finally found a excuse to blame it on something. It is just politics. Unless Trump or Biden came into your house and did something for you personally they don't give a shit about you after you voted.

But if you place them in a position higher than family and friends.....says more about you than them.

I have 3 friends on Facebook that 1 is die hard Dem and the other Trump lovers and they have 20-30 line threads arguing on Facebook. They were fraternity brothers. When the talk turns to football from their university they speak like old friends and end with wishing each other happy holidays or whatever is coming up.

This is addressed to all of you cutting out friends and family over elections or some of you so bat shit crazy about what happened you need to educate the world.
some people think they're tough; (con projection), they're just pussies, or women.
 
I don't usually make new threads on this forum unless there is a significant point I am trying to make - I would rather latch on to someone else's similar idea and expand from there. I'm not sure why I'm even posting this. Perhaps I'm doing it for therapeutic purposes? There is some strange comfort in typing my jumbled thoughts out in a clear manner for me to sift through afterwards. Maybe this will help me come to terms with the travesty of what occurred on Tuesday evening. It will likely be long winded, with the usual right wing posters on one side agreeing, and the left ones throwing insults, but c'est la vie. I don't plan on fighting any of you on this topic, so if it makes you feel better to flame me, have at it.

To say that I am disappointed with the election results would be an understatement. I severely miscalculated the level of intelligence in the general populace, giving far more emphasis to logic than emotion. As my (once) good friend (a very liberal voter) told me at one time - I am not typical in my thinking. He meant this as a compliment, elaborating that I tend to cut out emotion entirely when I do my analysis and determine which decision makes sense. He is a good person, though I can no longer spend time with him, as his belief of the country's direction differs too great from my own. Additionally, my mother and step-father voted Obama, and I have canceled my Christmas visit to New Jersey to spend time with them. They are hurt, but I find myself not caring at all.

I am resentful. I don't want to be, but I simply can't help it. I tried to determine why I am so angry, and in my true nature, dissecting my feelings in the attempt to determine whether it is the immature fact that my "horse" lost the race, or something far deeper. I don't care that much when my Steelers lose a football game. I don't care when i lose a pickup hoops game. It's it about losing? I don't think so.

I think what is really bothering me is that what is so clear to me is so lost on them. When I asked my family, or friends that voted Obama, why they did so, none of them could articulate a substantial reason. If someone was gay, and they did so because gay rights are the number one reason for them, THAT is a substantial reason. I can accept that. But when asked, none of the folks I mentioned could articulate anything than "I don't like Mitt Romney." When I asked them why, they mumbled a bunch of MSNBC talking points that weren't even factually accurate. They voted, then returned to the latest Hollywood gossip shows, or reality TV and forgot about the country again. They cast a vote that would substantially affect the future of the country, with all the seriousness and focus of someone picking out a bag of chips in the grocery aisle. "I don't like Pringles. What do you want me to say?"

Further alarming, is that this type of thinking is growing. It is on the rise. Educated voters are disappearing. What remains is a mob of sheep who find themselves "caring" about the direction of the country for one month every 4 years - who pretend to be experts on all decision making, but really only regurgitate the latest talking points from their biased tv outlets. I think this is what disappointed me most - knowing that this is now the majority of the country, and the battle is lost. Yes, that's it! Holy crap - it's the understanding that the battle is lost. Permanently. If someone like Obama can win given the last four years of utter disaster, then there will never be a time in the future where facts matter any longer. It is all emotion and spin.

So, as I come to terms with this, I have realized a few things that I will change in my life. I can no longer afford to take the moral high ground on decisions made. Being a responsible citizen no longer pays off. The only who will prosper in this nation are those who are net takers. Karma is no longer relevant, religion is a past-time that yields no fruit. It is time to become part of the rat race and take what I can before the whole damned system comes crashing down around us. Some changes I will enact in my life.

I will compromise much less with people in the attempt to be polite and nice.

My friends and family who are naive and unwilling to leave the herd (even on the other side of the spectrum) and are content to plow through life oblivious to what world they are walking in will be written off. I will not spend my time around them.

I will no longer buy what I can get for free. This doesn't mean larceny, of course, but it does mean thinks like movies and music. I've long supported buying originals instead of using the net to get it for free. No longer.

I've been giving 5% of my salary to charity for over a decade. I will cut that immediately. I will no longer donate anything to anyone.

I will immediately seek an international position in my company so that I can take advantage of dual citizenship to place assets internationally.

I will make sure I take advantage of any possible tax loophole I can.

I will surround myself with like-minded, conservative thinkers who are preparing for the collapse of our financial well being. This will likely result in me becoming more extreme, but I don't care. It's us versus them for me, now.

I will accelerate my project of solace in the Smoky Mountains, and that will serve as solace should I need it. And I will stock pile all the necessary things to keep that place sustainable.

Finally, I will focus on my family and myself, and no longer try to educate or help society become a better place.

As negative as all this is (and I know it is), I find myself OK with that. I am fine with nursing the cynic and killing all the hope I ever had.

And having written all this, I feel better now. Strange how that is.


Still feel this way?

Still think Obama was that bad a President?
 
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