Coming to terms with my feelings. Long, sorry.

When I think of great Women leaders, world stage, #1 Thatcher comes to mind. Golda Meir, maybe Merkel for a current candidate, there’s others........ but each of them commanded attention when they entered the room, each had/have an air of distinction, something unique and special about them.

Kamala Harris has zero of that.

She was ousted first round in the primaries. She was picked strictly for gender and ethnicity and rode Biden’s coattails into office. Heaven help us if she becomes POTUS.


people said the same about Selina Meyer
 
If someone like Obama can win given the last four years of utter disaster, then there will never be a time in the future where facts matter any longer
I find this incomprehensible. You're under no obligation to explain it, but nevertheless it is incomprehensible to me. I guess I'm wondering why anyone like a Joe Biden wouldn't have won overwhelmingly after "four years of utter disaster". (In your remark, I've taken the phrase after the comma into account as well. I still find it incomprehensible.)
 
When I think of great Women leaders, world stage, #1 Thatcher comes to mind. Golda Meir, maybe Merkel for a current candidate, there’s others........ but each of them commanded attention when they entered the room, each had/have an air of distinction, something unique and special about them.

Kamala Harris has zero of that.

She was ousted first round in the primaries. She was picked strictly for gender and ethnicity and rode Biden’s coattails into office. Heaven help us if she becomes POTUS.

I agree. Kamala Harris has not an ounce of distinction compared to the Women leaders you mentioned.

She is nothing but a token:

Black America Isn’t Fooled by the Kamala Harris Nomination | The Stream
 
I don't usually make new threads on this forum unless there is a significant point I am trying to make - I would rather latch on to someone else's similar idea and expand from there. I'm not sure why I'm even posting this. Perhaps I'm doing it for therapeutic purposes? There is some strange comfort in typing my jumbled thoughts out in a clear manner for me to sift through afterwards. Maybe this will help me come to terms with the travesty of what occurred on Tuesday evening. It will likely be long winded, with the usual right wing posters on one side agreeing, and the left ones throwing insults, but c'est la vie. I don't plan on fighting any of you on this topic, so if it makes you feel better to flame me, have at it.

To say that I am disappointed with the election results would be an understatement. I severely miscalculated the level of intelligence in the general populace, giving far more emphasis to logic than emotion. As my (once) good friend (a very liberal voter) told me at one time - I am not typical in my thinking. He meant this as a compliment, elaborating that I tend to cut out emotion entirely when I do my analysis and determine which decision makes sense. He is a good person, though I can no longer spend time with him, as his belief of the country's direction differs too great from my own. Additionally, my mother and step-father voted Obama, and I have canceled my Christmas visit to New Jersey to spend time with them. They are hurt, but I find myself not caring at all.

I am resentful. I don't want to be, but I simply can't help it. I tried to determine why I am so angry, and in my true nature, dissecting my feelings in the attempt to determine whether it is the immature fact that my "horse" lost the race, or something far deeper. I don't care that much when my Steelers lose a football game. I don't care when i lose a pickup hoops game. It's it about losing? I don't think so.

I think what is really bothering me is that what is so clear to me is so lost on them. When I asked my family, or friends that voted Obama, why they did so, none of them could articulate a substantial reason. If someone was gay, and they did so because gay rights are the number one reason for them, THAT is a substantial reason. I can accept that. But when asked, none of the folks I mentioned could articulate anything than "I don't like Mitt Romney." When I asked them why, they mumbled a bunch of MSNBC talking points that weren't even factually accurate. They voted, then returned to the latest Hollywood gossip shows, or reality TV and forgot about the country again. They cast a vote that would substantially affect the future of the country, with all the seriousness and focus of someone picking out a bag of chips in the grocery aisle. "I don't like Pringles. What do you want me to say?"

Further alarming, is that this type of thinking is growing. It is on the rise. Educated voters are disappearing. What remains is a mob of sheep who find themselves "caring" about the direction of the country for one month every 4 years - who pretend to be experts on all decision making, but really only regurgitate the latest talking points from their biased tv outlets. I think this is what disappointed me most - knowing that this is now the majority of the country, and the battle is lost. Yes, that's it! Holy crap - it's the understanding that the battle is lost. Permanently. If someone like Obama can win given the last four years of utter disaster, then there will never be a time in the future where facts matter any longer. It is all emotion and spin.

So, as I come to terms with this, I have realized a few things that I will change in my life. I can no longer afford to take the moral high ground on decisions made. Being a responsible citizen no longer pays off. The only who will prosper in this nation are those who are net takers. Karma is no longer relevant, religion is a past-time that yields no fruit. It is time to become part of the rat race and take what I can before the whole damned system comes crashing down around us. Some changes I will enact in my life.

I will compromise much less with people in the attempt to be polite and nice.

My friends and family who are naive and unwilling to leave the herd (even on the other side of the spectrum) and are content to plow through life oblivious to what world they are walking in will be written off. I will not spend my time around them.

I will no longer buy what I can get for free. This doesn't mean larceny, of course, but it does mean thinks like movies and music. I've long supported buying originals instead of using the net to get it for free. No longer.

I've been giving 5% of my salary to charity for over a decade. I will cut that immediately. I will no longer donate anything to anyone.

I will immediately seek an international position in my company so that I can take advantage of dual citizenship to place assets internationally.

I will make sure I take advantage of any possible tax loophole I can.

I will surround myself with like-minded, conservative thinkers who are preparing for the collapse of our financial well being. This will likely result in me becoming more extreme, but I don't care. It's us versus them for me, now.

I will accelerate my project of solace in the Smoky Mountains, and that will serve as solace should I need it. And I will stock pile all the necessary things to keep that place sustainable.

Finally, I will focus on my family and myself, and no longer try to educate or help society become a better place.

As negative as all this is (and I know it is), I find myself OK with that. I am fine with nursing the cynic and killing all the hope I ever had.

And having written all this, I feel better now. Strange how that is.

This is some cold blooded stuff, man. You ditched your own mother because she voted for Obama? That’s a sin.
 
This is some cold blooded stuff, man. You ditched your own mother because she voted for Obama? That’s a sin.

LOL! All the way back to 2012, eh?

Well "ditched" is a bit hyperbolic as usual from you. I didn't visit them that year for Christmas because I was too pissed off. So I guess you can say I ditched the Christmas trip.

Later the next year they lamented on how they voted for Obama that second time (we all voted for him the first time).

But I appreciate you bringing this post up. I had forgotten about it. Lets see how I did on my promises...

"I will compromise much less with people in the attempt to be polite and nice."

This was something I didn't accomplish much. I realized that compromise was necessary more than I had thought, although being polite and nice had its moments. However, what I learned was that there were some people you could never compromise with - because they never gave an inch and you never benefited from being nice to them, as they just took it as weakness. Folks like yourself, for example. People like you are socially awkward, alone in life and will always do what they can to push their self-righteous views on others. So I'd say I didn't hold to this commitment outside of applying it to a select group of people that didn't matter anyway.

"My friends and family who are naive and unwilling to leave the herd (even on the other side of the spectrum) and are content to plow through life oblivious to what world they are walking in will be written off. I will not spend my time around them."

I accomplished this. Folks who are low information voters aren't a part of my life anymore. This isn't to say there aren't people with dissenting opinions, but if they don't have reasons for those opinions outside of emotional concepts or aren't able to articulate them, they don't pass the bar for people I want to spend my time with.

I will no longer buy what I can get for free. This doesn't mean larceny, of course, but it does mean thinks like movies and music. I've long supported buying originals instead of using the net to get it for free. No longer.

Check.

I've been giving 5% of my salary to charity for over a decade. I will cut that immediately. I will no longer donate anything to anyone.

Check. The government can support them with the taxes I pay. (although there is one local charity I do tend to support, but considerably less than I used to spend on all charity).

I will immediately seek an international position in my company so that I can take advantage of dual citizenship to place assets internationally.


Almost got to this again, but career head me in a different way. I figured Florida was a happy compromise - no state income tax! But our family is dual citizenship, and there are ways we have used that to our advantage.

I will make sure I take advantage of any possible tax loophole I can.

Check! Have a spectacular accountant now.

I will surround myself with like-minded, conservative thinkers who are preparing for the collapse of our financial well being. This will likely result in me becoming more extreme, but I don't care. It's us versus them for me, now.

Meh...not as successful as I had intended back then. Although the financial collapse is, indeed coming. There's no question on that. I've allocated assets accordingly. But my friends are a mix - as stated earlier.

I will accelerate my project of solace in the Smoky Mountains, and that will serve as solace should I need it. And I will stock pile all the necessary things to keep that place sustainable.

Escape to the Mountains is a done deal! I've used that retreat for a while now.

Finally, I will focus on my family and myself, and no longer try to educate or help society become a better place.


Another one that you can't really call binary. I did redouble my focus on my family, and I don't go out of my way to try to teach or add much to society unless I benefit as well (see charity). But does anyone really do much in that category? Do you? If so, I'd be curious what you do to make society a better place.

So I give myself a B- or C+ on my stated goals.
 
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How are your feelings about the 2020 Election results? At least as currently indicated?

Regarding 2020, I didn't like either candidate. So I am OK with how it turned out. As I have said multiple times. But amazing blast from the past! Your necromancy skills are elite!
 
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Obviously OP was extremely messed up in 2012 so much so that he didn't want to visit his Mother just because she voted for Obama. You are following a similar path now. Maybe you can learn something from what occurred only 8 years since to Max E and Denner. OP who seems to understand now it was a destructive personal path; which path will you follow ?

I'm not so sure I'd say which path was destructive. I definitely changed after that election. But time, as they say, heals all wounds and the bitterness I felt that day ended up smoothing out. That, and of course, I'm not so much full of piss and wind as I was, and having your children grow up with you tends to mellow and teach patience.
 
LOL! All the way back to 2012, eh?

Well "ditched" is a bit hyperbolic as usual from you. I didn't visit them that year for Christmas because I was too pissed off. So I guess you can say I ditched the Christmas trip.

Later the next year they lamented on how they voted for Obama that second time (we all voted for him the first time).

But I appreciate you bringing this post up. I had forgotten about it. Lets see how I did on my promises...

"I will compromise much less with people in the attempt to be polite and nice."

This was something I didn't accomplish much. I realized that compromise was necessary more than I had thought, although being polite and nice had its moments. However, what I learned was that there were some people you could never compromise with - because they never gave an inch and you never benefited from being nice to them, as they just took it as weakness. Folks like yourself, for example. People like you are socially awkward, alone in life and will always do what they can to push their self-righteous views on others. So I'd say I didn't hold to this commitment outside of applying it to a select group of people that didn't matter anyway.

"My friends and family who are naive and unwilling to leave the herd (even on the other side of the spectrum) and are content to plow through life oblivious to what world they are walking in will be written off. I will not spend my time around them."

I accomplished this. Folks who are low information voters aren't a part of my life anymore. This isn't to say there aren't people with dissenting opinions, but if they don't have reasons for those opinions outside of emotional concepts or aren't able to articulate them, they don't pass the bar for people I want to spend my time with.

I will no longer buy what I can get for free. This doesn't mean larceny, of course, but it does mean thinks like movies and music. I've long supported buying originals instead of using the net to get it for free. No longer.

Check.

I've been giving 5% of my salary to charity for over a decade. I will cut that immediately. I will no longer donate anything to anyone.

Check. The government can support them with the taxes I pay. (although there is one local charity I do tend to support, but considerably less than I used to spend on all charity).

I will immediately seek an international position in my company so that I can take advantage of dual citizenship to place assets internationally.


Almost got to this again, but career head me in a different way. I figured Florida was a happy compromise - no state income tax! But our family is dual citizenship, and there are ways we have used that to our advantage.

I will make sure I take advantage of any possible tax loophole I can.

Check! Have a spectacular accountant now.

I will surround myself with like-minded, conservative thinkers who are preparing for the collapse of our financial well being. This will likely result in me becoming more extreme, but I don't care. It's us versus them for me, now.

Meh...not as successful as I had intended back then. Although the financial collapse is, indeed coming. There's no question on that. I've allocated assets accordingly. But my friends are a mix - as stated earlier.

I will accelerate my project of solace in the Smoky Mountains, and that will serve as solace should I need it. And I will stock pile all the necessary things to keep that place sustainable.

Escape to the Mountains is a done deal! I've used that retreat for a while now.

Finally, I will focus on my family and myself, and no longer try to educate or help society become a better place.


Another one that you can't really call binary. I did redouble my focus on my family, and I don't go out of my way to try to teach or add much to society unless I benefit as well (see charity). But does anyone really do much in that category? Do you? If so, I'd be curious what you do to make society a better place.

So I give myself a B- or C+ on my stated goals.

Good for you, I’m glad you found a way forward.
 
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