Coming to terms with my feelings. Long, sorry.

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

I know alot of people who agree with you, talked to a trader i know who is worth about 10 mill, and he is simply going to renounce his citizenship, and then keep living in the states, part time, and pay no taxes, he doesnt have, or want kids, too many people are tired of this shit, we have hit critical mass.

I'm very interested in the potential to trade as an offshore entity for tax avoidance . But as far as your friend's plan I don't think it works that way.

When you renounce I doubt very seriously they are going to be willing to turn around and give you a visa of any sort.

I mean you will be on a shit list that not even known terrorists will be on.

Let me know if you have any resources or info.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Tsing, you asked why liberals voted for Obama. Well I know there are different stripes of liberals, so here is one liberal whom, as you had very specific reasons for voting this way.

The GOP for some horrible reason turned this thing into a social fight, or nearly civil rights proportions. People waited in line for 8 hours to oust Romney because they really and truly felt that Mittens was trying to drag us into an abyss.....

This will be long Tsing, but watch it. I know you will. You are a thoughtful guy, check it out.

People voted for Obama on faith. They had no evidence to vote otherwise, because the last four years have been an utter failure in every possible manner. Incidentally, that is why I voted for Obama the first time around! Because Bush's last 4 years were an utter failure in every possible manner and a change needed to be made. I was wrong then. What makes me so sure I wasn't wrong this time? Because in the last four years I woke up. I spent large amounts of time in the math. I had the shit scared out of me when I realized where we were going.

As for your video, I am not watching that. I will not watch anything, ever, from Rachael Maddow, and I will not listen to Obama's speech (which is what the photo appears it will be). I bought into the FIRST winning speech 4 years ago and it was all lies. I won't make that mistake again. I didn't even read the transcript.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from El Guapo:

Lucky for you its just your mother...my wife voted away the future of my children. Contemplating divorce, but for now its cheaper to keep her.

Very true, my friend.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

I'm very interested in the potential to trade as an offshore entity for tax avoidance . But as far as your friend's plan I don't think it works that way.

When you renounce I doubt very seriously they are going to be willing to turn around and give you a visa of any sort.

I mean you will be on a shit list that not even known terrorists will be on.

Let me know if you have any resources or info.

With that kind of money, he should just go to Panama or Monte Negro. Lots of places better off.

 

[budcampbell]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Tsing, you asked why liberals voted for Obama. Well I know there are different stripes of liberals, so here is one liberal whom, as you had very specific reasons for voting this way.

The GOP for some horrible reason turned this thing into a social fight, or nearly civil rights proportions. People waited in line for 8 hours to oust Romney because they really and truly felt that Mittens was trying to drag us into an abyss.....

This will be long Tsing, but watch it. I know you will. You are a thoughtful guy, check it out.

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what a total pile of bullshit.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

People voted for Obama on faith. They had no evidence to vote otherwise, because the last four years have been an utter failure in every possible manner.

"Every possible manner," do you seriously believe things could not be worse?

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

I know ...a trader i know who is worth about 10 mill, and he is simply going to renounce his citizenship, and then keep living in the states, part time, and pay no taxes,

How is this possible??

 

[Max E.]

You are exactly the kind of misinformed voter that Tsing was refferring too, you bought into this bullshit narrative,that the radical left wing media was able to sell that supposedly Mitt Romney wanted to repeal Civil rights, and repeal Roe V. Wade, there was no chance Romney was even going to go there, and there was no chance any of that even would have made it through the senate.

Maddow even started off with her typical bullshit 1 minute into the video, "republicans wont be able to kill medicare" the bullshit narrative she has been playing for the last 2 years, that politifact has and other fact checkers have shown is a blatant lie, medicare is going to die alright, but now its going to be because Obama and the dems would rather use the issue to demonise opponents than do anything to fix it.

Quote from RCG Trader:

Tsing, you asked why liberals voted for Obama. Well I know there are different stripes of liberals, so here is one liberal whom, as you had very specific reasons for voting this way.

The GOP for some horrible reason turned this thing into a social fight, or nearly civil rights proportions. People waited in line for 8 hours to oust Romney because they really and truly felt that Mittens was trying to drag us into an abyss.....

This will be long Tsing, but watch it. I know you will. You are a thoughtful guy, check it out.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

"Every possible manner," do you seriously believe things could not be worse?

I'm speaking fiscally, Ricter. I truly believe we have made every wrong decision in the financial arena since Obama has been in. Actually, that is wrong. Since the last two years of the Bush Presidency.

There were some horrible decisions prior to that as well, but there were also some decent ones. I cannot find a single positive financial choice made during the Obama administration. And please, don't try your Keynesian philosophy as a counter to my beliefs. I'm not in the mood for it.

 

[mrbill]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I (now) look at it this way - every dollar my taxes increase will be paid for by the elimination in charitable dollars given away. Additionally, the groups I have been giving money to are predominately and likely voters of the same policies I am advocating against.

It's stupid, and no different than the US giving financial aid to a country hell bent on the US's destruction.

I've found that it takes time to analyze each charity to determine the value of each dollar given. Money towards research, medical primarily, seems to be the least likely to be consumed by the so called takers. You do have to be careful to see that there are not exorbitant administrative costs. IMO, helping find a cure can help generations. Perhaps donating some time and expertise would work better for you than donating cash.