Coming to terms with my feelings. Long, sorry.

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I never considered it a weak link, sir. Conservatism is your weak link. Nay, it is your fatal flaw.:)
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You're just a lying sack of shit, you just posted this a few pages back.
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And wound up gay? Wow, that explains a lot.
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Oh, and one other thing. Newsflash! There will ALWAYS be inequality in the world. Someone will always be rich, and someone else poor. Forever. You cannot balance that out of your equation. The only way to make things better is to give the rich guy an environment in which he feels safe and secure enough to invest and create a place/company for the poor guy to work in and make a living. With hard work and perseverance, the rich guy gives the poor guy a better job, or the poor guy figures out a way to make a better product or offer a better service than the rich guy and becomes rich(er) himself.

But one person is always going to work for another. There is absolutely nothing you can do about that. Trying to create an equal playing field will just have some folks cheat, steal and game the system. Those who don't do that because of their own moral fiber or fear of the law will do the only thing they can - LEAVE.
 
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Reading this thread all day has brought me to this. I must say, and please don't take personal offense, but all this "the end is near" talk makes me believe more than ever what a nation of pussies we have become.
Could we survive what those old dogs went through in the great depression? Doubtful! What we're expereincing today is a f'n cake walk compared to that. Then they had to fight a world war where thousands died daily. Every day, and it didn't look good for quite some time. We're freaked cause a few thousand have died over a 10 year period in Iraq and Afganistan? Not to dimish their deaths, but that number ain't shit either, comparitivly speaking.
There's more. The cold war wasn't just some game during the 50's and 60's. We were on the brink of total annihilation more then once. Then there's the late 60's and riots were the daily thing. Big f'n riots. People getting killed all the time.
Assassinations of one key figure after another. The country was in shambles.
What do we have today? More bills than money, and that's the end? That's suppose to make me cower in fear? Run for the hills? Bullshit!
The difference, we had leaders. Leaders who, love'em or hate'em never said fuck the people, let'em suffer. They did their best to unite the people. They said, we can do this. And for you Reagan lovers, of which I'm not really one, the guy could inspire people. He believed in America and it's people. So do I! I ain't running and I ain't hiding from my reposibility to make this a better place. We need a leader, and if it doesn't come from D.C., then it must come from one of us, all of us. The people!
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I for one am grateful to have a great American like you on my side, and my family's side Capn'. And I aint talkin about being a part of any political party.

Fuckin crybaby pussies!!
 
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This one sentence rained all over CaptainObvious's thought out post. But it's exactly right.

We're not talking about the end of the world, Captain. We're talking about how to prepare for the time when all commerce collapses and we have to figure out our way through via a transition period. Once the transition occurs, we'll have learned our lesson (hopefully) and be on our way to another 50-100 years of prosperity, until someone stupid comes back into power.

But when that commerce collapse happens, there will be hunger, famine and loss of life.
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A good idea to be prepared. I guess I'm just not ready to say it's unfixable, even though I do believe I've said it before. I agree we're very close to the tipping point, but maybe we can pull a rabbit out of a hat. That said, I'm not so naive as to not have a plan for a crash.
 
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A good idea to be prepared. I guess I'm just not ready to say it's unfixable, even though I do believe I've said it before. I agree we're very close to the tipping point, but maybe we can pull a rabbit out of a hat. That said, I'm not so naive as to not have a plan for a crash.
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You've already stated you're too old to care, but you'll still take a few down with you. I'm planning on using you as fodder to hold them off while I get the family out to the retreat. You can't back out now!
 
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I for one am grateful to have a great American like you on my side, and my family's side Capn'. And I aint talkin about being a part of any political party.
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Well thanks, but I ain't a great anything. Just another guy trying to get by. All I'm really trying to point out is that most of us are all singing the same song for a better America, but we're singing our own song so loudly we can't hear what the other guy is saying. Let's just calm the F down for a moment and catch our breath.
 
Tsing . . . how much of blame would you place on that bunch of fuckups you would refer to as the hierarchy of the Republican Party? In my opinion they don't seem fit enough to even organize a piss up in a brewery.

Maybe you guys ought to start a thread about that.:).
 
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You've already stated you're too old to care, but you'll still take a few down with you. I'm planning on using you as fodder to hold them off while I get the family out to the retreat. You can't back out now!
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LOL! I'll be there if necessary. Seriously, if it get's serious I ain't one to run, but I do know my limitations and it won't end well for me in a major brawl. Not at this stage of the game. Still got a little juice left though.
 
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Oh, and one other thing. Newsflash! There will ALWAYS be inequality in the world. Someone will always be rich, and someone else poor. Forever. You cannot balance that out of your equation. The only way to make things better is to give the rich guy an environment in which he feels safe and secure enough to invest and create a place/company for the poor guy to work in and make a living. With hard work and perseverance, the rich guy gives the poor guy a better job, or the poor guy figures out a way to make a better product or offer a better service than the rich guy and becomes rich(er) himself.

But one person is always going to work for another. There is absolutely nothing you can do about that. Trying to create an equal playing field will just have some folks cheat, steal and game the system. Those who don't do that because of their own moral fiber or fear of the law will do the only thing they can - LEAVE.
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This is true of course - but mostly for entrepreneurs. Guys/Gals who start and grow a successful (legal) business deserve the fruits of their labors.

Of course, there are the guys who hop on board companies and run them into the ground, collect golden parachutes, and stick it to the stockholders.

So "rich guy" may not be a good term. Maybe "entrepreneur" is better.

There is a saying that adversity is like alcohol - it doesn't make you different, it just makes you more of what you already are.

If you can abandon the way you behaved before with no regrets, then maybe you never were that way to begin with. How you behaved before was a facade - something to satisfy what you deemed to be societal acceptability.

So be what you are within the limits of legality.

There is one recurring test to do that might help. At night in bed when it is quiet, say to yourself "This is my deathbed. I'll never see the morning sun. I'm glad I became the person that I am."

Because one day (if you're lucky enough to go that way) it's gonna happen.

If it passes your personal smell test, it's all good. :D
 
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