Comey, like so many other Clinton-robots, had "wet-finger-in-the-wind" morality. But now that's over

DTB2 said:
Again, quit looking at the incorrect data and get down to what was happening at the street level.

Again, show me that mythical Hillary person that switched to Trump or even stayed home because of ANYTHING Hillary or Comey did. Hillary supporters would not be the least bit deterred by any charges against her.
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What was incorrect about the data, can you be specific?

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Clinton’s standing in the polls fell sharply. She’d led Trump by 5.9 percentage points in FiveThirtyEight’s popular vote projection at 12:01 a.m. on Oct. 28. A week later — after polls had time to fully reflect the letter — her lead had declined to 2.9 percentage points. That is to say, there was a shift of about 3 percentage points against Clinton. And it was an especially pernicious shift for Clinton because (at least according to the FiveThirtyEight model) Clinton was underperforming in swing states as compared to the country overall. In the average swing state,

As weighted by the state’s likelihood of being the tipping-point state.
Clinton’s lead declined from 4.5 percentage points at the start of Oct. 28 to just 1.7 percentage points on Nov. 4. If the polls were off even slightly, Trump could be headed to the White House."

Tell me what's wrong with the data and the analysis?
 
The data was garbage in garbage out. What changed as the election neared is that Trump supporters became more certain of his win and declared their support when polled.

The poll numbers changed but the reality of the outcome didn't. Trump was leading for quite awhile, pollsters just didn't know it.
 
DTB2 said:
The data was garbage in garbage out. What changed as the election neared is that Trump supporters became more certain of his win and declared their support when polled.

The poll numbers changed but the reality of the outcome didn't. Trump was leading for quite awhile, pollsters just didn't know it.
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The poll aggregates perfectly predicted the final vote count, so how exactly are they garbage?

To say that a very negative headline for a candidate didn't impact the election is wishful thinking, Trump squeaked by 80000 votes in few swing states which was a combination of some Democrats sitting out and some hard lefties voting Trump or Stein, you can ignore this fact to pretend Trump won without Comey's blessings - the fact that data shows the opposite and people like Conway admit to it is what everyone else will go by.
 
exGOPer said:
The poll aggregates perfectly predicted the final vote count, so how exactly are they garbage?

To say that a very negative headline for a candidate didn't impact the election is wishful thinking, Trump squeaked by 80000 votes in few swing states which was a combination of some Democrats sitting out and some hard lefties voting Trump or Stein, you can ignore this fact to pretend Trump won without Comey's blessings - the fact that data shows the opposite and people like Conway admit to it is what everyone else will go by.
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Pheww, good thing there were no negative headlines for Trump to overcome. He had a cakewalk, you know.
 
DTB2 said:
Pheww, good thing there were no negative headlines for Trump to overcome. He had a cakewalk, you know.
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He didn't have any in the last week, that's the difference.

And by the way, Hillary was covered more negatively than Trump

"Clinton was covered more negatively than Trump, with 62 percent negative and 38 percent positive coverage compared to Trump's coverage, which was 56 percent negative and 44 percent positive."
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-m...verage-overwhelmingly-negative-in-tone-232307
 
exGOPer said:
He didn't have any in the last week, that's the difference.

And by the way, Hillary was covered more negatively than Trump

"Clinton was covered more negatively than Trump, with 62 percent negative and 38 percent positive coverage compared to Trump's coverage, which was 56 percent negative and 44 percent positive."
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-m...verage-overwhelmingly-negative-in-tone-232307
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Can you hear yourself? There's been nothing but bad press 24/7 on Trump in the MSM since he declared his intention to run. Clinton disapeared for days on end, and was treated with kid gloves by the press

She lost because she's toxic. Get over it.
 
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From your own link: According to the analysis, both candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump “received coverage that was overwhelmingly negative in tone and extremely light on policy.” Trump was covered slightly more negatively than Clinton over the course of the general election, with coverage being 77 percent negative to 23 percent positive compared to Clinton coverage running 64 percent negative to 36 percent positive coverage. But over the course of the entire campaign, Clinton was covered more negatively than Trump, with 62 percent negative and 38 percent positive coverage compared to Trump's coverage, which was 56 percent negative and 44 percent positive.

So in the primary you were correct but head to head, Trump was more negatively covered. I also like how the author posits slightly more 77-64 but doesn't use slightly when the difference is 62-56. LOL, just another example.
 
DTB2 said:
From your own link: According to the analysis, both candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump “received coverage that was overwhelmingly negative in tone and extremely light on policy.” Trump was covered slightly more negatively than Clinton over the course of the general election, with coverage being 77 percent negative to 23 percent positive compared to Clinton coverage running 64 percent negative to 36 percent positive coverage. But over the course of the entire campaign, Clinton was covered more negatively than Trump, with 62 percent negative and 38 percent positive coverage compared to Trump's coverage, which was 56 percent negative and 44 percent positive.

So in the primary you were correct but head to head, Trump was more negatively covered. I also like how the author posits slightly more 77-64 but doesn't use slightly when the difference is 62-56. LOL, just another example.
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That primary was the problem which is why the overall negativity towards Clinton cost her the election

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters’ refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.

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According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

The impact of those votes was significant. In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump—Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—Trump’s margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/bernie-sanders-voters-helped-trump-become-president/


And again, Trump didn't get any negative stories in the last week when people were actually voting, that's when the elections are decided and that's why Clinton was severely damaged by Comey's reckless action. Without Comey and without Russians spending 200 million worth of troll damage, Trump would be another grandpa tweeting bullshit everyday.
 
exGOPer said:
Nonsense, always look at the aggregates. Clinton lost more than 1% of the vote because of the letter which was enough to swing the election to Trump. She lost by 80000 votes in few states.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

Also what the letter did is motivate undecided voters into Trump's camp and a lot of BernieBros got swamped by fake news and victimhood as well. It was the perfect storm and Comey flagged it.
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Ohhhh but but but I thought it was the Russians!!!!
Wahhhh - the tears continue to stream down the losers face.
The only participation trophy you get is the continual MSM bashing of the President...I know you and your ilk are wanking to it nightly!
 
I thought the recent analysis was Hillary lost because too many white women voted the way they were told to by their husbands, sons and evil males bosses.

Hillary and her supporters are a bunch of sniveling losers grasping at anything. It's very unbecoming.
 
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