Comey fired after asking for more resources for Russia inquiry
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There must be two investigations going on. In one Trump is not the focus. That would be the one that formed the context in which Comey said "you are not being investigated", if in fact Comey said that, as Trump claims. (That was very early right after the inauguration.) That would be the investigation into Russian Hacking. It is likely that the reason the acting AG, Sally Yates, said she would be surprised if Comey said what Trump is claiming, is because she has knowledge of the second, more serious investigation, which is the investigation into Russian blackmailing of Trump. If Comey told Trump he was not being investigated, and that has to be viewed as doubtful as we have only Trumps word on it, it would have been in the context of the Russian Hacking investigation.
In the Second investigation, Trump is the Focus. Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians. That is abundantly clear now. It is not publicly known yet, what information the Russians have re Trump, but most likely it involves Kushners, Trump, and their business dealings in Russia. Alternatively, it could involve embarrassing personal conduct as described in the report given to Senator McCain that he turned over to the FBI. The latter report may have had its origin in British intelligence. Regardless of the reason behind the blackmail, which is still unknown to the public, it is clear that Trump is being blackmailed. His recent behavior, in particular, and his behavior throughout his campaign is 100% inline with this conjecture.
In the Second investigation, Trump is the Focus. Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians. That is abundantly clear now. It is not publicly known yet, what information the Russians have re Trump, but most likely it involves Kushners, Trump, and their business dealings in Russia. Alternatively, it could involve embarrassing personal conduct as described in the report given to Senator McCain that he turned over to the FBI. The latter report may have had its origin in British intelligence. Regardless of the reason behind the blackmail, which is still unknown to the public, it is clear that Trump is being blackmailed. His recent behavior, in particular, and his behavior throughout his campaign is 100% inline with this conjecture.
I hope you do! Let's wait and see. I is fun to conjecture. What could possibly be behind our Presidents bizarre behavior, beyond mental illness? Statistically what are the odds of a Candidate for President for the United States hiring a Russian Agent (unregistered with the DOJ, which is a crime) as their campaign manager; then, once elected, hiring another Russian Agent ( belatedly registered) as their National Security Advisor! What are the odds of that same president appointing several others to administration posts with strong Russian ties, including one to a cabinet position. Perhaps he was given a list of recommended candidates. Do you suppose?
So i turns out I hit the nail almost on the head! Trump is the subject of an investigation of Russian Oligarchs laundering crooked money through Trump Real Estate Deals. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean any Russians with diplomatic immunity are going to be indicted. But it does mean the probable early termination of the Trump Presidency. We'll have to wait for the completion of the investigation to know for sure. Money Laundering is illegal, and counter to what Richard Nixon would have thought, when the President does it, it is still illegal.
So yes, Trump is being blackmailed, not with note tied to a rock thrown through a window, demanding payoff money or else, but in a, "We have no current plans to respond to the U.S. Bank Regulator's (the FED) request for information" sort of way. In the meantime expect the Russians and Mr. Trump to enjoy a close working relationship "mutually beneficial to both our great countries."
The Trump administration "asked" all the U.S. attorneys to resign, a more sweeping request than the usual call for resignations upon a change in administration. This was, they thought, a clever way to dispose of Preet Bharara, the New York U.S. Attorney heading up the Trump Money Laundering Investigation and avoid an obstruction charge. Bharara is no dummy! He refused to resign; thus forcing Trump to specifically fire him. Now there will be an inordinately slow hiring of replacement attorneys. No need to rush with that "fake" money laundering investigation.
What's that disgusting odor I just got a whiff of -- smells a bit like Obstruction of Justice.
Though listing to Starboard, the HMS Trump sails on. The rats on lower decks are eyeing the portholes, planning their escape.
What's that disgusting odor I just got a whiff of -- smells a bit like Obstruction of Justice.
Though listing to Starboard, the HMS Trump sails on. The rats on lower decks are eyeing the portholes, planning their escape.
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I just did a quick check of a few left and right websites and I did not see anything about Russian money laundering. Could you give us a link. I would like to read some substance.
The world buries money in the US real estate. That is not illegal money laundering. So I am wondering what else you have on this subject.
The world buries money in the US real estate. That is not illegal money laundering. So I am wondering what else you have on this subject.
So i turns out I hit the nail almost on the head! Trump is the subject of an investigation of Russian Oligarchs laundering crooked money through Trump Real Estate Deals. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean any Russians with diplomatic immunity are going to be indicted. But it does mean the probable early termination of the Trump Presidency. We'll have to wait for the completion of the investigation to know for sure. Money Laundering is illegal, and counter to what Richard Nixon would have thought, when the President does it, it is still illegal.
So yes, Trump is being blackmailed, not with note tied to a rock thrown through a window, demanding payoff money or else, but in a, "We have no current plans to respond to the U.S. Bank Regulator's (the FED) request for information" sort of way. In the meantime expect the Russians and Mr. Trump to enjoy a close working relationship "mutually beneficial to both our great countries."
That is a whole lot of conjecture stated as fact.
Can you please explain a Russian Oligarchs need to launder money?So i turns out I hit the nail almost on the head! Trump is the subject of an investigation of Russian Oligarchs laundering crooked money through Trump Real Estate Deals. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean any Russians with diplomatic immunity are going to be indicted. But it does mean the probable early termination of the Trump Presidency. We'll have to wait for the completion of the investigation to know for sure. Money Laundering is illegal, and counter to what Richard Nixon would have thought, when the President does it, it is still illegal.
So yes, Trump is being blackmailed, not with note tied to a rock thrown through a window, demanding payoff money or else, but in a, "We have no current plans to respond to the U.S. Bank Regulator's (the FED) request for information" sort of way. In the meantime expect the Russians and Mr. Trump to enjoy a close working relationship "mutually beneficial to both our great countries."
This sounds like complete bullshit to me. Also, why in the hell would a Russian Oligarch launder money in the US? They have many options available to them if they had the need. The only person/entity that a Russian Oligarch needs to hide money from is Putin.
All of this speculation is so stupid. It is like liberals don't live in the real world. Like they have never completed or been a part of a business transactions. The liberals perspective would make sense to me if they are all employees and not employers or business owners.
This is how it would work in the real world. Let's say you had a real estate transaction and you needed a JV partner. You hire a big named broker in NY to find you some equity partners. The broker brings in offers from ten different equity sources. You narrow those sources down to say three offers by the economic terms of the letters of intent. After going though a bid/negotiation process, you select a winner of the equity sources that has the best economic terms. Sometimes the decision makers only have a few conversations with the decision makers of the potential equity source besides a few conference calls. After the letter of intent is agreed upon and is executed by both sides, the deal is handed off to lawyers to paper the JV partnership and to lower level employees to provide due diligence information. During some of the conversations, the group seeking a JV partner would probably ask what is your source of funds primarily to make sure that they will show up the the closing table with the equity. For illustrative purposes, say the potential JV partner stated that their source of capital is from a Russian Oligarch. Then the group ask how did he make his money. The equity source states in logistics. They state okay and that is the end of the conversation. All along the way the business guys will have lawyers making sure that they are following AML and all other laws. Nothing nefarious about it. Both sides would sign legal docs stating that the are not laundering money, etc.
But NO, this real would example can't be the case. Trump must have had a clandestine cloak-and-dagger meeting in an alley with a Russian oligarch in which he handed him a suitcase of money and told him to launder it in a CRE transaction. Take off the tinfoil and join the real world.
Furthermore, to my knowledge, Trump has procured a first mortgage on every transaction he has completed. All equity sources in general, would have executed AML docs and others with the first mortgage lender.
Do you expect every commercial real estate principal to do a full blown 6 month investigation to find the source of funds for every potential equity partner? How long has the FBI been investigating this? Do you expect CRE principals to be better than the FBI?
So, even if one of Trump's equity partners was laundering money, why is he expected to know? He, his legal team and the 1st mortgage lender would have followed all of the AML laws that are in place to expose money launderers. Before being president, was he any type of law enforcement agent?
Furthermore, after the Patriot Act, it is pretty hard to launder money in the US UNLESS the banks are involved. So, even if some of Trump's equity partners are Russian Oligarchs that were laundering money, it is unlikely that Trump would have any knowledge of it and it would be the banks that would have the knowledge. In general, with the type of CRE transactions that Trump closes, each party to the transaction would have in-house legal counsel and an outside law firm. With 3 parties to the above example, that is six different groups of lawyers not including the seller. In other words, for the laundering to take place, six different groups of lawyers would have had to basically signed off on it or have no idea that it is taking place which is extremely unlikely. These type of groups don't use piss ant law firms. In general, they use big name law firms.
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There's documented connection between the Russian mob and high ranking officials in Russian politics. If the mob wanted to launder money made in the US, this would be one way. But that would be reaching in this case.
More than likely they want to have options to move to the states and/or are looking for ways to move their ill gotten money out of Russia much like the Chinese are. Which is technically laundering, but not under US law.
Another less likely scenario would be Trump making illicit money outside the US (illegal for citizens) and purchasing his own properties at a profit through one of these oligarchs for a fee.
Be patient; information of interest is headed your way. In the meantime, purely for its entertainment value, you might want to pick up a copy of the latest issue of Vanity Fair.
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