Combining multiple systems

Quote from dtrader98:


... this makes no sense. How can you choose to stay out of the losing proposition in retrospect? You can not make a decision in hindsight. It's akin to saying let's assume we avoided picking the losing lottery numbers; now let's study the dynamics under that assumption.
Gee, this system looks profitable.

I eagerly await any rebuttal to my earlier assertions. Although I can see I won't see any rational counter arguments any time soon.
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You don't get it because you're a f*ckin' retard... I ended up re-editting the words that I f*ckin' used.

0 means you take the "Given" condition... and don't participate on the decision of the next direction.
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

You don't get it because you're a f*ckin' retard... I ended up re-editting the words that I f*ckin' used.

0 means you take the "Given" condition... and don't participate on the decision of the next direction.
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Your desperate resort to juvenile defense mechanisms tell me all I need to know about your intelligence.
Sorry to have wasted my time on a response.

It's too bad you couldn't even see that you finally had someone with a bit more knowledge than yourself come to your defense on parrondo's paradox (part of what pulled me into this thread -- to
dispense of any faulty interpretations you were receiving).
I'll make sure to not make the same mistake twice.:cool:
 
Quote from dtrader98:

Your juvenile defense mechanisms tell me all I need to know about your intelligence.
Sorry to have wasted my time on a response.
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OK... I thought it was only you but I guess a lot of people don't understand...

Apologies... you have an average intelligence...
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:


Given -------------- Next Possible Result -------------- Outcome
1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 0 -------------- -1
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

Then you take out the choice of staying out when you have a loss:

1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

You adjusted the result to a +1 point system.
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how can you take the whole line off (the line #5) when you've already made the initial -1 outcome?
 
let me try

=

(1-the summation of 1/n ) /(1- the summation of (1/n)+[(1/(2^n))* "n choose (n+1)/2"] as n goes from 0 to infiniti.)

too tired to solve sorry
 
Quote from phattails:

let me try

=

(1-the summation of 1/n ) /(1- the summation of (1/n)+[(1/(2^n))* "n choose (n+1)/2"] as n goes from 0 to infiniti.)

too tired to solve sorry
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should have read "the summation of 1-1/n /...
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

This is my real real real real real last post...

Let's say you are given a choice to stay out along with going in and out. So you are given 3 choices from the initial condition:
Given -------------- Next Possible Result -------------- Outcome
1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 0 -------------- -1
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

Then you take out the choice of staying out when you have a loss:

1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

You adjusted the result to a +1 point system.

Let's say you flip 2 coins:

You'll get the following, simple distribution:

Positive trade: 12 0.48
Breakeven trade: 7 0.28
Negative trade: 6 0.24

This can be another thing Maestro maybe referring to....
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we start talking different things. i am still referring to
MAESTRO's post with the four different ways his stock
can move within two steps. it was a stock, so it cannot
stay at the sidetracks and he excluded 0 as the next
move.

MAESTRO is in teasing mode, so he doesn't clear up
things, which i actually find a quite amusing passtime.

BTW i am "man", but that handle got banned two
days ago. actually i am contemplating on leaving et
as well for some time.
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

OK... I thought it was only you but I guess a lot of people don't understand...

Apologies... you have an average intelligence...
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BTW that is the funny thing about "(real)x5 last posts" ...
someone jumps on you for whatever reason and ... well
here goes the "last, last, last, last ..." ...
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

This is my real real real real real last post... I think I can mention this a bit more in detail because it's a really simple and I feel that I'm won't be giving out anything much...

Let's say you are given a choice to stay out along with going in and out. So you are given 3 choices from the initial condition:
Given -------------- Next Possible Result -------------- Outcome
1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 0 -------------- -1
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

Then you take out the choice of staying out when you have a loss:

1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

You adjusted the result to a +1 point system.

Let's say you flip 2 coins:

You'll get the following, simple distribution:

Positive trade: 12 0.48
Breakeven trade: 7 0.28
Negative trade: 6 0.24

This can be another thing Maestro maybe referring to....
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ah, and: yes. you did not give too much away ... :)
 
Quote from fvmn:

Think of a coin.
If you toss it twice, it can land in four different ways: HH, HT, TH ant TT. If you get H in first toss (moderator affect?! :D), what is the probability that you will get H again in the second toss? ...
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i found your post a little too obvious in the first place,
but actually you nailed it. as long as we do not have
additional information about no-random dependencies
between the systems or between consecutive steps
of one system it is the repetition of independent trials.
there is no room for conditional probabilities, since as
postulated the trials are independent.

there is merit from thinking like this, but the examples
provided so far do not hold water by themselves. so we
probably end up with wishing nice days to each other,
since we do not actually agree on what we are talking
about in the first place.

just one thing. and this is, in the right hands (minds
... :)) really valuable: it does not make difference if
you can predict a market or the outcome of a trading
system (provided that you can trade the system long
and short without changing its properties - i am obviously
referring to fees ...). so, building predictable trading
systems is like predicting the market. and i will not
elaborate on this.
 
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