Combining multiple systems

Quote from mind:

i translated this stock into a spreadsheet. i simulated all four
cases. each time the stock moves up by P(up)=50% or down by
P(50%). the result after 10.000 simulations is:

result=2:
25%
result=0:
51% (rounding error, in essence it is obviously 50%)
result=-2:
25%

talk me out of it. sheet attached.

Hint #2:

You are absolutely right considering the infinite number of possible further outcomes. Does the situation change if you had a limited amount of possible events? Consider a coin tossing game with the limited amount of tosses or the door opening game with the limited number of doors. How does it change the result?
Keep on thinking. You are very close.

:cool:
 
Quote from MAESTRO:

Hint #2:

You ... are very close.
(trust me, if it wasn't you i'd call you names and leave.
but, since it IS you, i'll continue tomorrow ... .)
 
Quote from mind:

(trust me, if it wasn't you i'd call you names and leave.
but, since it IS you, i'll continue tomorrow ... .)

Please accept my apologies for teasing you. I hope that on the end it will be well worth for you. I just don't want to give you my results. Instead I would like you to come up with your own discovery. It is very unusual and not very obvious way of looking at the price moves. I found it very intriguing! Try to think completely out of the box.
 
Well...

Considering the current topic...

I'm can not be exactly sure that I am at the same conclusion and view with MAESTRO and I'd like to warn that I don't speak on behalf of him. So what I mention may not be the same "view" as him.

My conclusion ended up being a Fib. relationship. My hint (if MAESTRO observed what I tested) would be a change in perspective led to changing a 50/50 chance to .618/.382 chance... This has nothing to do with my past trading style as a Gann trader. I believe that there's no chance of the ratio hitting a straight 1/3.

My 60/40 figure came from there...
 
MAESTRO
my guess is that we end up with talking about different
things. but as i said, i'll continue tomorrow.

TS
great that you do well. though your posts are trending
towards a more disorganized style so to speak. you write
like a 17yr old beauty who is marrying today and just
found out she is pregnant, and that she can't find her
comb ... and that, goodness ... and ...
 
Quote from mind:

i think an ending in fib levels would be quite an amusement
to me ...

This is my real real real real real last post... I think I can mention this a bit more in detail because it's a really simple and I feel that I'm won't be giving out anything much...

Let's say you are given a choice to stay out along with going in and out. So you are given 3 choices from the initial condition:
Given -------------- Next Possible Result -------------- Outcome
1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 0 -------------- -1
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

Then you take out the choice of staying out when you have a loss:

1 -------------- 1 -------------- 2
1 -------------- 0 -------------- 1
1 -------------- -1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- 1 -------------- 0
-1 -------------- -1 -------------- -2

You adjusted the result to a +1 point system.

Let's say you flip 2 coins:

You'll get the following, simple distribution:

Positive trade: 12 0.48
Breakeven trade: 7 0.28
Negative trade: 6 0.24

This can be another thing Maestro maybe referring to....
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

This is my real real real real real last post... I think I can mention this a bit more in detail because it's a really simple and I feel that I'm won't be giving out anything much...

Consider a coin flip game...

Let's say you are given a choice to stay out along with going in and out. So you are given 3 choices from the initial condition:

1 1 2
1 0 1
1 -1 0
-1 1 0
-1 0 -1
-1 -1 -2

Then you take out the choice of taking a staying out when you have a loss:


... this makes no sense. How can you choose to stay out of the losing proposition in retrospect? You can not make a decision in hindsight. It's akin to saying let's assume we avoided picking the losing lottery numbers; now let's study the dynamics under that assumption.
Gee, this system looks profitable.

I eagerly await any rebuttal to my earlier assertions. Although I can see I won't see any rational counter arguments any time soon.



1 1 2
1 0 1
1 -1 0
-1 1 0
-1 -1 -2

You adjusted the result to a +1 point system.

Let's say you flip 2 coins:

You'll get a:

Positive trade: 12 0.48
Breakeven trade: 7 0.28
Negative trade: 6 0.24

This can be another thing Maestro maybe referring to....
 
Quote from TSGannGalt:

Well...

Considering the current topic...

I'm can not be exactly sure that I am at the same conclusion and view with MAESTRO and I'd like to warn that I don't speak on behalf of him. So what I mention may not be the same "view" as him.

My conclusion ended up being a Fib. relationship. My hint (if MAESTRO observed what I tested) would be a change in perspective led to changing a 50/50 chance to .618/.382 chance... This has nothing to do with my past trading style as a Gann trader. I believe that there's no chance of the ratio hitting a straight 1/3.

My 60/40 figure came from there...

Good luck with your new gig! It sounds like you've done the grunt work and it's finally coming to fruition.
 
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