"Colombia has become the Israel of Latin America"

[dddooo]

Quote from ratboy88:

what if we breed cockroaches... train them and back them for years... then it is our right to discredit them and squash them later on?

Even if we breed them train them and back them (and it's not the case in 80% of your examples) we have every right in the world to discredit and squash them if/when they turn against us. Duh! Welcome to the real world where things are different from youtube.

But as I said it has nothing to do with the point I was making. I did not even say that we should squash them, I merely pointed out that Martin and the book presented only one side of a very complicated story.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from dddooo:

Even if we breed them train them and back them (and it's not the case in 80% of your examples) we have every right in the world to discredit and squash them if/when they turn against us. Duh! Welcome to the real world where things are different from youtube.

i propose we get out of the drug dealing business first.... then analyze each example seperately.

 

[chuck.ells]

Quote from dddooo:

Even if we breed them train them and back them (and it's not the case in 80% of your examples) we have every right in the world to discredit and squash them if/when they turn against us. Duh! Welcome to the real world where things are different from youtube.

LOL Cock roach rancher. Giddy up you nag.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from ratboy88:

who is going to pay for it? international bankers? they will finance both sides and all will be in debt to them for generations. for what?

The same international bankers who promoted and advocated WWII and then financed it so that they could, later on, enslave the waring parties. Can you say Rothchild and the zionist movement?

 

[Sparohok]

Quote from dddooo:

Does he also address the track record of NOT squashing cockroaches? Don't we end up with Ayatollas, Ahmadinejad, Hamas, Chavez, Taliban and similar world "leaders"? Or the fact that not squashing cockroaches does not lead to good results either would get in the way of his story and confuse his readers a tad too much?

You think that the Ayatollah, Ahmadinejad, Hamas, Chavez, and the Taliban are the result of American NON-involvement?

It must be nice in your bubble.

Read the damn book. Learn something.

Martin

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from Sparohok:

You think that the Ayatollah, Ahmadinejad, Hamas, Chavez, and the Taliban are the result of American NON-involvement?

It must be nice in your bubble.

Read the damn book. Learn something.

Martin

OK, everything that ever goes bad is our fault. I get it now.

So what's your suggestion for the venezuela/colombia situation? Keep our fingers crossed? Or will Obama be able to put them under one of his magic spells?

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

OK, everything that ever goes bad is our fault. I get it now.

So what's your suggestion for the venezuela/colombia situation? Keep our fingers crossed? Or will Obama be able to put them under one of his magic spells?

you worried about our crops?

 

[chuck.ells]

Quote from ratboy88:

you worried about our crops?

Nice and snappy.

"Worried about our crops." lmao

 

[Sparohok]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

This however is one of the easier ones. We can allow Chavez, an openly marxist thug who has used his country's oil revenues to fund other marxists throughout latin america, subvert a democratic US ally, Colombia. Or we can nip the problem in the bud, as was done in Chile with Allende.

Worst possible solution, one that certainly would not nip the problem in the bud. Do you think American influence, democracy and free market economics would blossom once we step in and take out Chavez? If anything, doing so would confirm all the worst that he says about us. We would prove him right.

The cold war is over and with it the last poor excuse for direct intervention in Latin American politics. Even at the time nobody pretended that the US and USSR were acting in Chile's best interests. Certainly the outcome with Pinochet supports my thesis and my policy better than it supports yours. Allende was no saint, but compared to Pinochet he certainly wasn't a cockroach either.

Martin

 

[Sparohok]

OK, everything that ever goes bad is our fault. I get it now.

What is this, third grade?

Read the damn book.

So what's your suggestion for the venezuela/colombia situation?

Um, how about we let them sort it out?

I don't see any reason for direct US involvement unless Venezuela invades Columbia, which isn't going to happen, and even if it did would be great for US interests.

Correa and Chavez are pissed because Uribe outsmarted them. He stole a march and he's going to get away with it. Go Uribe.

You can't even tell when we've already won, and you want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by getting the US involved. That's exactly what Chavez wants, exactly what he's been gunning for with years of fiery rhetoric. Sadly he doesn't seem to have underestimated the intelligence of the average American.

Martin