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College isn't just "not worth it", unfortunately, it's a negative.
- Thread starter wilburbear
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http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/201...shows-college-degrees-well-worth-their-price/
Study by Georgetown that shows that most unemployment in the post crisis world is actually with those who don't have a college degree.
While there are stories of MFA's who can't find jobs; if you go to college and get something marketable you are far better off than not going to college.
Study by Georgetown that shows that most unemployment in the post crisis world is actually with those who don't have a college degree.
While there are stories of MFA's who can't find jobs; if you go to college and get something marketable you are far better off than not going to college.
Quote from newwurldmn:
http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/201...shows-college-degrees-well-worth-their-price/
Study by Georgetown that shows that most unemployment in the post crisis world is actually with those who don't have a college degree.
While there are stories of MFA's who can't find jobs; if you go to college and get something marketable you are far better off than not going to college.
Its used as a screening tool, no degree no look. My wife never completed college and she is overlooked often even though she was a 2 time president's club member at a company she worked for, and not in RE LOL.
The question I have....
Is it by design or unintended consequence?
Just using rough numbers to make a point.
If the mba degree is worth an additional 100k over a working lifetime. Why and how did it end up that the student has to pay the 100k educational expense up front?
Some how the monetization of the degree has stripped all of the value from it in economic terms.
The student has become a cash churner.
Is it by design or unintended consequence?
Just using rough numbers to make a point.
If the mba degree is worth an additional 100k over a working lifetime. Why and how did it end up that the student has to pay the 100k educational expense up front?
Some how the monetization of the degree has stripped all of the value from it in economic terms.
The student has become a cash churner.
This thread is about the value of a college education so I don't want to digress, but I thought I would post a link to a comment I made in another thread re tuition increases. To summarize, tuition has either "skyrocketed" or barely kept pace with inflation depending entirely on what inflation number you use. Here is the link.Quote from McFadden5252:
College is not worth it. Especially not the expensive D1 schools. Government subsidized loans made tuition prices skyrocket. ...
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3528297&highlight=tuition#post3528297
Just last night someone I was talking with, who is very familiar with the nature of higher education in our public institutions, made this observation which I think is both germane to the present discussion and also rather profound.
He noted that beginning with the G.I. Bill and accelerating somewhat after Johnson's Great Society, there has been a subtle drift in the curriculum emphasis in our public institutions away from traditional liberal arts studies toward job training. For example, if you go back before WWII, you won't find architectural or electronic technology, as opposed to architecture or electrical engineering, in the curriculum of public universities. Today you will find it.
He expressed the opinion that eventually majors such as philosophy, classics, even foreign languages (as a major) would disappear from the curriculum of the public universities and that other humanity majors such as, English, history, etc. would receive much less emphasis, with graduate programs such as Elizabethan Literature, Renaissance History, etc. virtually disappearing.
Eventually, he predicted, these more esoteric studies would only be available in the expensive, top tier private colleges and universities. And thus he opined that the present represents a transitional period in public higher education when a person of ordinary means can still avail themselves of serious studies in the traditional liberal arts along with job training. Eventually, he predicted, that only the very bright or very wealthy will be able to study in the more esoteric fields because these programs will no longer co-exist with more job oriented programs in our publicly funded colleges and universities.
I suppose that the taxpayer will insist that he be proven correct. Personally, I hope this does not happen. Nevertheless, it seems to be.
He noted that beginning with the G.I. Bill and accelerating somewhat after Johnson's Great Society, there has been a subtle drift in the curriculum emphasis in our public institutions away from traditional liberal arts studies toward job training. For example, if you go back before WWII, you won't find architectural or electronic technology, as opposed to architecture or electrical engineering, in the curriculum of public universities. Today you will find it.
He expressed the opinion that eventually majors such as philosophy, classics, even foreign languages (as a major) would disappear from the curriculum of the public universities and that other humanity majors such as, English, history, etc. would receive much less emphasis, with graduate programs such as Elizabethan Literature, Renaissance History, etc. virtually disappearing.
Eventually, he predicted, these more esoteric studies would only be available in the expensive, top tier private colleges and universities. And thus he opined that the present represents a transitional period in public higher education when a person of ordinary means can still avail themselves of serious studies in the traditional liberal arts along with job training. Eventually, he predicted, that only the very bright or very wealthy will be able to study in the more esoteric fields because these programs will no longer co-exist with more job oriented programs in our publicly funded colleges and universities.
I suppose that the taxpayer will insist that he be proven correct. Personally, I hope this does not happen. Nevertheless, it seems to be.
Quote from piezoe:
He expressed the opinion that eventually majors such as philosophy, classics, even foreign languages (as a major) would disappear from the curriculum of the public universities and that other humanity majors such as, English, history, etc. would receive much less emphasis, with graduate programs such as Elizabethan Literature, Renaissance History, etc. virtually disappearing.
Worthwhile courses have been replaced by "Learning to Curse," âThe Uses of Deviance,â âUnspeakable Lives: Gay and Lesbian Narrativesâ and other gems from the PC world of academia.
http://www.goacta.org/publications/downloads/ShakespeareFile.pdf
If someone wants to study the classics, go to a small private school where you read original sources, learn Latin, etc. Or learn on your own--ample resources available online and at libraries. Tax dollars don't need to be wasted on dumb-downed trashbins that are now liberal arts departments in most public unversities.