College isn't just "not worth it", unfortunately, it's a negative.

[LEAPup]

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I also like the trade school route these days... anything which pays decently and can't be outsourced... HVAC, plumbing, something like that... something most don't want to do because it involves getting a little dirty. (Speaking of dirty, the refrigerator repair guy which came highly recommended from Angie's list... charged me $240/hr... for (1) swapping refrigerator parts, and (2) misdiagnosing the problem and not getting the repair right. $240/hr sounds like a righteous wage.)

Agreed completely!

I've got a friend who owns an oil and gas well company that provides parts. He's screaming for welders. He's got a welder working for him making over $100k/yr, he supplies a company truck, Blue cross blue shield health ins, gasoline paid for, lunches paid for if traveling to the site, and the welder never works weekends unless there's an emergency.

He can't find enough welders right now as people still sadly believe a basket weaving degree means they'll have a job upon graduation.

 

[cdcaveman]

Quote from LEAPup:

Agreed completely!

I've got a friend who owns an oil and gas well company that provides parts. He's screaming for welders. He's got a welder working for him making over $100k/yr, he supplies a company truck, Blue cross blue shield health ins, gasoline paid for, lunches paid for if traveling to the site, and the welder never works weekends unless there's an emergency.

He can't find enough welders right now as people still sadly believe a basket weaving degree means they'll have a job upon graduation.

haha... theres so much truth to be had in this thread... i've owned a irrigation company for 15 years... i couldn't get a white man to come dig trenches with me and the mexicans if i paid him three times as much as i pay the mexicans.. That kind of job isn't sexy in this consumerism materialistic society we live in.. you gotta have a cake office job or outside sales job where you continualy work less and less.. thats the kind of jobs that people are jobless looking for... unemployed is the wrong word.. its unemployable and fucking lazy

 

[dandxg]

Quote from cdcaveman:

haha... theres so much truth to be had in this thread... i've owned a irrigation company for 15 years... i couldn't get a white man to come dig trenches with me and the mexicans if i paid him three times as much as i pay the mexicans.. That kind of job isn't sexy in this consumerism materialistic society we live in.. you gotta have a cake office job or outside sales job where you continualy work less and less.. thats the kind of jobs that people are jobless looking for... unemployed is the wrong word.. its unemployable and fucking lazy

I am not sure where you are from, but having just come from outside sales, and know a lot of outside sales people we work are asses off. 60 hours a week is the norm, plus when you get home you are never off the clock as people are e-mailing, texting, and calling you. So when we take our water cooler breaks bsing, we deserve it. Have you cold called 40-80 business in the 80-90 degree heat with business clothes on?

And here in Colorado most people I know mow their own lawns, trim their own trees, and yes i dug out my busted sprinkler line on my own at age 43.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from cdcaveman:

haha... theres so much truth to be had in this thread... i've owned a irrigation company for 15 years... i couldn't get a white man to come dig trenches with me and the mexicans if i paid him three times as much as i pay the mexicans.. That kind of job isn't sexy in this consumerism materialistic society we live in.. you gotta have a cake office job or outside sales job where you continualy work less and less.. thats the kind of jobs that people are jobless looking for... unemployed is the wrong word.. its unemployable and fucking lazy

You nailed it!

Great example. My eldest Son is all bumed out because the rest of his friends are (mostly aimlessly), entering college this week. He's signed all the paperwork for the Marines, and based on his his ASVAB scores, he has a job working on aircraft once he graduates from boot camp, SOI, and his MOS school.

Funny part of this is he will be getting paid while learning, while moms and dads break their backs paying for basket weaving degrees. On top of that, I'd say he will be in great demand in the civillian World with this kind of technical background as people need will always need to fly, and competition will be low as what you pointed out above is a fact. People really are lazy, scared to get dirty, and absolutely unemployable.

 

[cdcaveman]

Academia is to knowledge what prostitution is to love; close
enough on the surface but, to the nonsucker, not exactly the same
thing2. (Taleb)

 

[jrlvnv]

I'm 37, and have no idea what I want to do when I grow up. What am I supposed to do? Got very lucky with the Vegas dealing thing. Just 25 more years to be bent over a craps table

 

[cdcaveman]

Quote from jrlvnv:

I'm 37, and have no idea what I want to do when I grow up. What am I supposed to do? Got very lucky with the Vegas dealing thing. Just 25 more years to be bent over a craps table

geez that sucks.......... are you trading at all?

 

[jrlvnv]

Quote from cdcaveman:

geez that sucks.......... are you trading at all?

I didn't have much luck at daytrading. Don't know how to program and don't know how to find a edge. I studied some Larry Williams stuff and seems to be ok. His ideas are more for trading commodities but has a few stock ideas. Not sure how the average person can trade commodities, those moves are huge sometimes. Even corn almost made a 1k move today.

 

[cdcaveman]

Quote from jrlvnv:

I didn't have much luck at daytrading. Don't know how to program and don't know how to find a edge. I studied some Larry Williams stuff and seems to be ok. His ideas are more for trading commodities but has a few stock ideas. Not sure how the average person can trade commodities, those moves are huge sometimes. Even corn almost made a 1k move today.

trade options... learn to trade options... you can manage a conservative book and still work..

 

[jrlvnv]

Quote from cdcaveman:

trade options... learn to trade options... you can manage a conservative book and still work..

I know what puts/calls selling covered, selling naked mean. What would you recommend learning?