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I used Collective for a while but the TradeStation signal interface was erratic - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. The result was that about 1/3 of the signals were never received on the Collective end. Anyone else have that problem?

My automated FX portfolio equity curve:
 

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how realistic is this? by the time the subscribers receive the signals from collective2, wouldn't their entry points differ from the signals due to the time diff?
 
How does the scaling work?

Eg.

if the portfolio i subscribe to has this components.

LONG 1000 XXX
LONG 2000 ABC
LONG 3000 LLL
LONG 1 PPP

The entire portfolio value is $100,000

I want to autotrade that portfolio with $10,000, how does it figure out the sizes?

Since $10,000 is 10% of $100,000, the first 3 trades are easy to figure out.

LONG 100 xxx
LONG 200 ABC
LONG 300 LLL

But what about the last trade?
LONG 0.1 PPP is impossible.

If this is how collective2 scales, wouldn't that make the actual autotrading performance very different from the published system?
 
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So I should pay money to papertrade(during a busy trading day) so that I can get 30 people to pay me $100 a month and dilution of my profitable trading method.?

Maybe if you were looking for seed money for a fund I would say it's worth the trouble but no succesful trader would really bother.
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Of course, Captain Obvious...
You think Stevie Cohen is sitting in his office wondering why C2 is so goddamn tough to figure out. It's for the shnooks out there, 95% of whom will have drawdowns of 50% or more in no time...
But the 5% who survive have a chance for that seed money. And for that reason, it's a good product and marketing material.

If you have a great system, then great. Sell it. Or raise cash. Then it all comes back to closing deals...
 
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Open E-Ery is now connected to all the futures systems in collective 2 for autotrading...

Cost is 2 bucks a side..plus the subscription to the system...some of the price are astounding...

be careful...

I do not endorse any of this...

ES
 
Quote from ginux:

how realistic is this? by the time the subscribers receive the signals from collective2, wouldn't their entry points differ from the signals due to the time diff?
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Well with some systems on C2 (like Bottoms Up) its pretty realistic since it only does EOD signals and instead of doing market orders, enters limit orders above the current price to limit slippage.
 
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How does the scaling work?

Eg.

if the portfolio i subscribe to has this components.

LONG 1000 XXX
LONG 2000 ABC
LONG 3000 LLL
LONG 1 PPP

The entire portfolio value is $100,000

I want to autotrade that portfolio with $10,000, how does it figure out the sizes?

Since $10,000 is 10% of $100,000, the first 3 trades are easy to figure out.

LONG 100 xxx
LONG 200 ABC
LONG 300 LLL

But what about the last trade?
LONG 0.1 PPP is impossible.

If this is how collective2 scales, wouldn't that make the actual autotrading performance very different from the published system?
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anyone knows this?
 
Your example is extreme, but, sure, that would be a no trade for your account.

Your personal performance record is going to differ somewhat from the official published record anyway, even with autotrading. Common reasons include non-identical fills for entries and exits; delayed, missed or incorrect fills; and, yes, the scaling factor distortion, for a smaller account than the system.

However, your performance should not be "very different," unless 1) you have not done your homework when selecting a system appropriate for your account, or 2) have not set the autotrading parameters correctly.

Before you even think of going live, you'll want to study the C2 AutoTrading forum.
 
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